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Morning Folks,
this is my most recent effort.
Greg Loyacano plays lead and rhythm guitars
I play bass, rhythm guitars & do the vocals.
Written & developed in BIAB.
Of the original BIAB RTs etc. only
REALDRUMS Praise Worship Power Push ^6 a & b remains.
Bass is a Knockhofner
Guitars - Greg used two Mosrites - I assume he's using a Marshall or one of his self built amps
I used a Squire Mustang & a Sheraton II using a tiny Kustom 5H through the speaker of a Peavey Blazer.
Vocal processing:
Mic AT2020
VERY light tuning
JS Spectrum Matcher
Mastered, as usual, by Fran Ashcroft of HappyBeat Studio.
G.O.M. versus The World
LYRIC:
When did shall become will?
How did sufficient become your fill?
What came before that isn't still?
Why does work seem to kill?

The morning sun poked me in the eye
Get up from that bed,
Shouldn't lie down to die.
The midday sun burnt my batter face
get up on your feet,
shouldn't slacken the pace.

Who turned the clock to face Death?
Where did love take it's last breath?
What kept us that isn't Meth?
Why ask questions MacBeth?

The morning sun poked me in the eye
Get up from that bed,
Shouldn't lie down to die.
The evening sun hides behind a cloud
Get on home now,
Should avoid the crowd.

The morning sun poked me in the eye
Get up from that bed,
Shouldn't lie down to die.
The midnight sun broke my fevered sleep
Get back to the pillow
Should be there with those sheep
Finding your own Bo Peep
Your needs aren't that deep.

Rudimentary/easy cheat chords:

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Interesting. I can't really make out the lyrics
I think the mix is overpowering your vocals.
Good effort


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Nice mix. I too found myself at a total loss on the lyrics. They should come up a bit.

The guitars are really well done.

I think you're finally starting to hit your stride. Your last few have been really good.

Good song too.


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Originally Posted By: Elliott Kayne

Good effort

Thanks Elliott,
If you're assessment of the vocal level is correct then, I suspect, it's not really a "Good effort" unless that's a participation certificate.
Yes, the vocals aren't UP in the mix, though quite higher than I'm used to placing them. Were it a decent vocal from a decent vocalist it'd still only be a little higher...it's my preference in the music I listen to an make.
I will pop the lyric in the O.P.
Again, thanks.


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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Nice mix. I too found myself at a total loss on the lyrics. They should come up a bit.
The guitars are really well done.
I think you're finally starting to hit your stride. Your last few have been really good.
Good song too.

Thanks Guitar Hacker,
If the lyrics, and thereby the vocals, need to come then it's not really a nice mix to your ears is it?
Yep, Greg's guitars are ace but his drumming, bass playing, guitar playing etc. are always really well done. I've know a few drummers who do "the lot" and they are, usually, pretty good at stuff.
I've taken note of your suggestion regarding the lyric/vocal level but probably won't do anything higher in the mix unless it's another voice.
Imagine striding out at 60bpm & then 130...I like the Python Silly Walk connection.
THANKS.

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Hi Ray. I enjoyed this. Well done.

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Quite dark story, despite all the sun in the lyrics.
I like the mix, everything sounds balanced in my ears.
Praise Worship drums work well and the bassline is guaranteed rayc quality. Enjoyed the guitar solo.
The chorus part is catchy, reminds me nicely of The Lords Of The New Church, the early 80's melodic new wave.

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Ray,

Sounds great to me. A real punky, almost jazz-fusion feel. A very cool combination.

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Man,

You are the Indie King!

This reminds me so much of my youth! What I listened to and played.

You have the heart of a punky/indie kid and that is an awesome thing. You're like Peter Pan and simply refuse to grow up and act your age. Good for you.

I lose 30 years or more everytime I hear one of your tunes!!!

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You KNEW I'd love the bass on this one, Ray. Those guitars are so good, and ya gotta respect a guy who makes his own amp. The vocals are confusing. Of course, you're familiar with the usual "Louder, Ray," but there seems to be a second vocalist in there.


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Cool song with a lot of raw energy.
I like that.
And you expected that, didn't you: make the vocals louder. And probably add some high end to make them cut better through the rest.

"Go back to the pillow
Should be there with the sheep"

Does that mean what I think it means, or is that a prejudice that we Europeans have about you guys and actually means something completely different?
I'm asking this for a friend... grin


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Originally Posted By: B.D.Thomas


"Go back to the pillow
Should be there with the sheep"

Does that mean what I think it means, or is that a prejudice that we Europeans have about you guys and actually means something completely different?

Ah, Mr. Thomas, that'd be a reference to the cousins across the ditch in New Zealand.
"Sheep" is a loaded reference these days. Ovine stock? Numbers to be counted? Unaware populace? Ambulatory textile manufactory?
Yes, I suspected/expected comments regarding vocal level just as you suspected/expected they'd be as they are.


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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
You KNEW I'd love the bass on this one, Ray. Those guitars are so good, and ya gotta respect a guy who makes his own amp. The vocals are confusing. Of course, you're familiar with the usual "Louder, Ray," but there seems to be a second vocalist in there.

Thanks Marty,
Yes, Greg makes the amps to get the sound he's after. Normally it's a raging LP through a Marshall or Mashallesque thing but thins has some twang from his Mosrites.
Two vocal sounds - it wasn't like that initially but the song lacked dynamics and using JS Spectrum Matcher I borrwed the verse tonality and chorus tonality from a now dead demigod, applied them to my own voice and there we have differentish voices - neither being loud.


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Hi Ray. I enjoyed this. Well done.

Thanks Rob.


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Originally Posted By: jannesan
Quite dark story, despite all the sun in the lyrics.
I like the mix, everything sounds balanced in my ears.
Praise Worship drums work well and the bassline is guaranteed rayc quality. Enjoyed the guitar solo.
The chorus part is catchy, reminds me nicely of The Lords Of The New Church, the early 80's melodic new wave.
Janne

Thanks Janne,
The solo is a cracker - I love the dives.


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Ray,
Sounds great to me. A real punky, almost jazz-fusion feel. A very cool combination.
Bob

Thanks Bob,
You frightened me.
Always a great way to start a cold morning!


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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Man,
You are the Indie King!
This reminds me so much of my youth! What I listened to and played.
You have the heart of a punky/indie kid and that is an awesome thing. You're like Peter Pan and simply refuse to grow up and act your age. Good for you.
I lose 30 years or more everytime I hear one of your tunes!!!
smile

Thanks David,
Having indulged myself with lengthy pastoral excursions of late, (mainly harking back to my high school years), I figured I needed to fast forward to "the college years" and beyond to keep myself & others awake.
I assume you know that G.O.M. stands for Grump Old Man.
This kid at heart spent yesterday making cheese cake, working on the video for this song and walking along the hiking path to the general store to buy bread, milk and some "lollies": the staples...they were out of Pop'n'Mavises.

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Hi Ray ...

Your Indie mashups always sound great in my ears. No exception here. As far as the vocal placement - it's your song; you can arrange it any way you choose. I did like the L-R vocal panning just before the ending.

It's my opinion that your mixing skills improve with every new post. Drums and bass rock in this one! Keep posting and I'll keep listening.

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Not knowing what G.O.M. stood for, I was hoping the lyrics would tell me. (Yes, I found it in the comments).

I'll join the the sad cry for "louder vocals", because... well, I'd hate to disappoint. wink

Nice playing (and singing) all around. laugh


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Ray,

Full, rockin’ sound . . . not easy to do using just BIAB, so I think Greg’s rhythm guitar additions really put this sound over the top. Yeah, the vocals definitely need to come up. Cool punk feel to this . . . sounds like a mix of The Clash and early R.E.M. to me . . . killer stuff, really. Energetic and alive, full of sound and fury. Excellent!

All my best to you,

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