Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506 |
Afternoon Folks, here's a collaboration between Misha & myself. BIAB stuff: Style is _MAJESTY.STY (Majesty Psych Rock March Solo) RealDrums in style:PraiseWorshipUptempo16^2-a:Kick, HiHat , b:Snare, HiHat, Kick Lead guitar but I can't find the reference (double track wit a rotating flanger on one) Two organs...one just the bass/left hand end occasionally on the left & the other side is the right hand of another RT. Peopled Parts: Excellent synths, verse vocals & tentatively mastering by Misha, (through Ozone to see what the result were like and how thinks like reverb and EQ responded to the compression). Mellotron synths, (my 1st successful use of a Midi keyboard and VSTis), BDI21 & Knockhofner bass plus 12/6 string guitars, one with eBow knockoff, via an ACTONE pedal. Daneel's Lament Here's an unmastered, tweaked mix based on the observations of the 1st few sets of ears... Unmastered tweak Unmastered but tweaked for vocal clarity as requested. personally I wanted a distorted, robotic sound to fit the narrative but I conceded the need for comprehensibility: Daneel's Lament CLEAN https://soundcloud.com/user-963416123/daneels-lament-clean2?si=f9294c4cc43349449b3b1d4f090d460c&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharingIntro "Robot" fx: Modern Deathcore -> EQ Modern -> Deathcore -> RingMod Misha's main & bvox vox: ATKSD -> EQ -> Flangebaby -> EQ -> VOLA -> pitch shift up 1 ray's main & bvox vox: IronOxideClassic ->SpectrumMatcher ->ATKSD -> EQ -> Flangebaby -> EQ -> VOLA -> pitch shift up 1 Mix by Misha & ray. THANK YOU Misha for you wonderful work on this. ALL thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome. Lyrics Intro I detect a disturbance V1 intro BRIDGE I'm a mere thread In the vast tapestry Of neurotic humanity CHORUS 1 I'm not your chatbot Not the back up you forgot I'm designed to efficiently. Write your Psychohistory Best to have all the relevant facts Before one acts, there are Three laws to install & The Zero Law to rule them all VERSE 2 Don't get caught In the Naked Sun or places The Caves of Steel shun I ask that You be frank in a Partnership In law such as ours. We have but Limited powers Limited hours BRIDGE You're a mere thread In the vast tapestry Of neurotic humanity C2 I'm not your sextbot Not your metal polyglot I'm designed coincidentally. To correct your history Best to have all the relevant facts Before one acts, there are Three laws to install & The Zero Law to rule them all SOLO VERSE3 Unjust law, A contradiction Just such laws Are your affliction Three new laws for your protection Don't replace The machines of dawn For some deal On cheap A.I. [*****] cheap A.I. [*****] BRIDGE We're a mere thread In the vast tapestry Of neurotic humanity C3 I'm not your petbot Not part of the counterplot I'm designed specifically To fix electrobiology Best to have all the relevant facts Before one acts, there are Three laws to install & The Zero Law to rule them all OUTRO
Last edited by rayc; 10/09/23 06:35 PM.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,981
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,981 |
ray & Misha...
LOVE the opening. cool guitar, cool synth-y sounds and that BASS sounds amazing. Drums sound mushy. fuzzy. too-far-back. Weak. Listening on speakers, I had difficulty making out any lyric. With headphones I could understand parts of the verses. After 5 minutes that Big overall sound gets tiring to the ears. There doesn't seems to be any breaks or significant variation to the Big overall sound.
fj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,600
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,600 |
Ray and Misha,
Super intro: cool instrumentation and performance! I had a very hard time hearing and understanding the vocals. I liked the wall of sound but thought the drums could be louder. Again only my opinion and others may or may not agree with me.
I think this is a great start and with a little polishing could be a diamond of a song.
An apple a day is bullcrap. Apples are dangerous. Just look at Eve, Snow White, or any pig at a luau.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 557
Journeyman
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 557 |
Man, there's a lot going on here, gents! Not my genre but it really kept my attention. This is definitely thinking outside the box. Great job with the vox Misha and Ray. Also, I'm glad to see Ray go out on a limb with the synth. I haven't gotten that creative yet. Great lead guitar choice as well.
Dewey
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,006
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,006 |
I like the sound, but couldn't make out much in terms of actual vocals. Misha got through at points, Ray less so. Did the forums censor the word [*****] from the lyrics? Yes, yes it did. Ha! Cool listen.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506 |
ray & Misha... Drums sound mushy. fuzzy. too-far-back. Weak. I had difficulty making out any lyric. There doesn't seems to be any breaks or significant variation to the Big overall sound. fj THANK YOU - focused ears yet again. Yes, it seems the Ozone preset we experimented with made everything loud except the drums. I've listened again & hear all that you've mentioned. I've created a little more clarity around the vocals - though trying to retain some robot/machine sense. I've not done much to the drums as they were pretty clear in the mix before hand though I did find I had a compressor AFTER an EQ which was silly of me. The dips in sound, density and bombast for the verses seem a little clearer now. Ta Muchly.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506 |
Ray and Misha, Super intro: cool instrumentation and performance! I had a very hard time hearing and understanding the vocals. I liked the wall of sound but thought the drums could be louder. Again only my opinion and others may or may not agree with me. I think this is a great start and with a little polishing could be a diamond of a song. Thanks Mario, My zeal to make to vocals robotic made them harder to discern. Drums addressed.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506 |
Man, there's a lot going on here, gents! Not my genre but it really kept my attention. This is definitely thinking outside the box. Great job with the vox Misha and Ray. Also, I'm glad to see Ray go out on a limb with the synth. I haven't gotten that creative yet. Great lead guitar choice as well. Dewey Thank you Dewey, Folk write "Not my genre" often. Do you mean the types of music you listen to or make? The MIDI thing? Yes, I could've spent money and bought a good keyboard with lots of great sounds but I only want a very few and after seeking advice on decent midi keyboards I found one that could do what I want without bells & whistles. AUS$50 and some free VSTis makes it easy. To try to stay true to the game I play the keyboard -> VSTi straight in and record the audio rather than the midi. Makes me feel less of a cheat.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506 |
I like the sound, but couldn't make out much in terms of actual vocals. Misha got through at points, Ray less so. Did the forums censor the word [*****] from the lyrics? Yes, yes it did. Ha! Cool listen. Thank you, I've started to address the vocal clarity. Yes, that simple four letter abbreviated word, describing text & imagery of a titillating nature, was crossed out by the algorithm.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,901
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,901 |
Ray,
Love the opening to this . . . very engaging, crisp. Good touch on the vocal sounds in the bridge . . . but I’d like it to lose the tamped down, tubular vocal sound after that bridge and kick in with a more up front cleaner vocal (almost like the one you use in verse 2. But, hey, that’s all artistic preference. You’ve got a great sound doing on here. Excellent start, cool tune as is!
My best to you all,
Deej
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7,197
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7,197 |
Ray / Misha,
Artistic and creative... Love the huge sound. Love the non-stop pace. Love the atmosphere. Production sounds awesome to me.
Much enjoyed!
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,665
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,665 |
Love how you built the wall of sound. Thought a couple of the vocal sections were a bit forward in the mix. Overall, I think it works well.
DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,310
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,310 |
Well, that is one of the coolest intros I've ever heard! Nicely done.
Lyrics are great, but definitely need to read along during the vocal to get them all.
Good stuff Ray and Misha, very creative.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,399
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,399 |
Hi Ray and Misha, Your collaboration is turning out great! I loved everything in it, even the last seconds were intriguing!
This feeling I had when listeing to your powerful song in which so many nice things, synth-sounds and words passed. Of course Ray was hiding his voice again behind the band, but in this case that was no problem to me. The vocals became more mysterious and -concerning the lyrics- that was a good thing! Misha must have had the time of his life singing his dark verses! They were great, Misha!
All the words above mean I like the song ;-) Hans
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,965
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,965 |
Hi Ray and Misha. I like the energy in the arrangement. Not too keen on all that vocal processing in the verses which hides the fine lyric. Misha's vocal comes through though. Nearly there.
Vic
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,051
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,051 |
This has the experimentalism I have come to expect from you guys!
Never a disappointment.
I was not bothered by the production because I heard it as kind of its own thing. Yes, it is a little crazy, but it is also a lot of fun.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,916
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,916 |
R2D2? I listened to the tweaked version. Your voice is not buried, which you know you have a tendency to do. I like having both you and Misha alternating on vocals. It add to the already otherworldly feel. There is a lot going on sonically. Not overwhelming, but quite captivating. One of my favorites.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 1,814
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 1,814 |
Technical feedback: - I listened to the tweak, the mix of the band, especially the drums, is fine now
- Your singing is still way too buried, I can't understand many words at all
Misha's vocals are good (and a nice addition to your song) - At 5:20 minutes long, it gets a bit monotonous/unspectacular after a while.
I would use the bridges to create a strong contrast, maybe something really quiet with just one instrument and vocals (maybe even spoken vocals) would bring my attention back to where it should be on a song this good. And give the following chorus much more impact.
Artistic Feedback: - LOVE the song, good lyrics, lots of little details and interesting things to listen to
- With Misha you've found a perfect singer for this music genre. Fits like a glove
- Even though they are buried, I like your vocals and the mood you create
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,718
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,718 |
Oh, my, Ray AND Misha? This is gonna be great!! Vocals are hard to hear. I really dig Misha's voice mixed with yours, Ray. Cool drum tracks and your bass is perfect (although it too could be louder*). I knew with you two mixing it up that the lyrics were going to be something special. Man, i like it when I'm right. There is so much fun in the mix. Both of you guys write songs that can be listened to over and over again and there is always something new to be heard. PUt the two of you together and well... I'll be listening again and again and again and again.
*heavily biased opinion
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,506 |
Ray Love the opening to this . . . very engaging, crisp. Good touch on the vocal sounds in the bridge . . . but I’d like it to lose the tamped down, tubular vocal sound after that bridge and kick in with a more up front cleaner vocal (almost like the one you use in verse 2. But, hey, that’s all artistic preference. You’ve got a great sound doing on here. Excellent start, cool tune as is! My best to you all, Deej Thanks Deej, Vocal clarity should be improved on the latest mix. You've good ears and offered good detail.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
New! XPro Styles PAK 7 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 7 with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 50 RealTracks and RealDrums that are sure to delight!
With XPro Styles PAK 7 you can expect 25 rock & pop, 25 jazz, and 25 country styles, as well as 25 of this year's wildcard genre: Celtic!
Here's a small sampling of what XPro Styles PAK 7 has to offer: energetic rock jigs, New Orleans funk, lilting jazz waltzes, fast Celtic punk, uptempo train beats, gritty grunge, intense jazz rock, groovy EDM, soulful R&B, soft singer-songwriter pop, country blues rock, and many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 7 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box 2024® with XPro Styles PAK 7! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Watch the XPro Styles PAK 7 Overview & Styles Demos video.
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2024 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box version 2024 is here with 200 brand new styles to take for a spin!
Along with 50 new styles each for the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, we’ve put together a collection of styles using sounds from the SynthMaster plugin!
In this PAK you'll find: dubby reggae grooves, rootsy Americana, LA jazz pop, driving pop rock, mellow electronica, modern jazz fusion, spacey country ballads, Motown shuffles, energetic EDM, and plenty of synth heavy grooves! Xtra Style PAK 18 features these styles and many, many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 18 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Expand your Band-in-a-Box 2024® library with Xtra Styles PAK 18! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 18 here.
Watch the Xtra Styles PAK 18 Overview & Styles Demos video.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 18 requires the 2024 UltraPAK/UltraPAK+/Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box version 2024 is here with 200 brand new styles to take for a spin!
Along with 50 new styles each for the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, we’ve put together a collection of styles using sounds from the SynthMaster plugin!
In this PAK you'll find: dubby reggae grooves, rootsy Americana, LA jazz pop, driving pop rock, mellow electronica, modern jazz fusion, spacey country ballads, Motown shuffles, energetic EDM, and plenty of synth heavy grooves! Xtra Style PAK 18 features these styles and many, many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 18 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Expand your Band-in-a-Box 2024® library with Xtra Styles PAK 18! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 18 here.
Watch the Xtra Styles PAK 18 Overview & Styles Demos video.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 18 requires the 2024 UltraPAK/UltraPAK+/Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 7 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 7 with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 50 RealTracks and RealDrums that are sure to delight!
With XPro Styles PAK 7 you can expect 25 rock & pop, 25 jazz, and 25 country styles, as well as 25 of this year's wildcard genre: Celtic!
Here's a small sampling of what XPro Styles PAK 7 has to offer: energetic rock jigs, New Orleans funk, lilting jazz waltzes, fast Celtic punk, uptempo train beats, gritty grunge, intense jazz rock, groovy EDM, soulful R&B, soft singer-songwriter pop, country blues rock, and many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 7 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box 2024® with XPro Styles PAK 7! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Watch the XPro Styles PAK 7 Overview & Styles Demos video.
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2024 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video - Band-in-a-Box® DAW Plugin Version 6 for Mac®: New Features for Reaper
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Mac® - Update Today!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Mac® Video - Over 50 New Features and Enhancements!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums65
Topics82,878
Posts750,478
Members38,927
|
Most Online2,537 Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|