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Hi everybody,
I would like to insert 3 individual notes at the early beginning of a backing track.
I guess this is feasible but I don't know how.
In addition, can I choose a specific instrument (a banjo) to play these notes ?
Thanks for a help.
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You can copy and paste in the Audio Edit (enable Snap) if you want pickup notes or use midi notes and select a banjo as instrument. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25503&filename=BB23-Pickup-Notes.png)
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I followed the steps you showed me, but I din't get the window where I could choose the bars where to insert the notes.
Instead, I got this comment: Audio is frozen.
Where can I unfreeze Audio ?
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I followed the steps you showed me, but I din't get the window where I could choose the bars where to insert the notes.
Instead, I got this comment: Audio is frozen.
Where can I unfreeze Audio ? Try this? ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25505&filename=2023-10-09_23-33-57.jpg)
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I already did it, but no result.
Audio is in red with a red star.
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I hadly ever use BIAB to do this as all my work apart from initial rough mx is done in RB but this should work. Open the mixer and choose an unused utility track. right click and choose 'select midi patch.' choose GM patch 106 banjo. clcik the notation icon and choose staff roll notation mode. then enter your notes using the mouse. the manual will tell you how to edit time pitch and velocity. you don't want audio as the way to enter your notes is by midi.
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I already did it, but no result.
Audio is in red with a red star. I showed it on the Audio track but you can do it on any track, don't use the Audio track if you have a file loaded on it. Use the alt+F8 to generate on bar 1 up as it won't generate on the count-in bars so you need to cut and paste it to bar 0.
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If the OP uses midi and the staff role they can choose exactly where they want the notes in relation to the rest of the song.......they can always add bars to give themselves space....... i really think midi is the answer here
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I already did it, but no result.
Audio is in red with a red star. I showed it on the Audio track but you can do it on any track, don't use the Audio track if you have a file loaded on it. Use the alt+F8 to generate on bar 1 up as it won't generate on the count-in bars so you need to cut and paste it to bar 0. Finally I found how to unfreeze the Audio track (in "Track Settings and Actions"). I can't use the Alt+F8 shortcut due to the lack of F keys on my laptop. Is there another way to open the "Regenerate Parts of a Track" window ?
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If the OP uses midi and the staff role they can choose exactly where they want the notes in relation to the rest of the song.......they can always add bars to give themselves space....... i really think midi is the answer here I appreciate your support, but is there a technical reason to avoid using real sound i.o. Midi ? I would like making the song as realistic as possible, ... even using an artificial voice !
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Finally I found how to unfreeze the Audio track (in "Track Settings and Actions").
I can't use the Alt+F8 shortcut due to the lack of F keys on my laptop.
Is there another way to open the "Regenerate Parts of a Track" window ? In the track menu > Track Actions > Regenerate window.
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Finally I found how to unfreeze the Audio track (in "Track Settings and Actions").
I can't use the Alt+F8 shortcut due to the lack of F keys on my laptop.
Is there another way to open the "Regenerate Parts of a Track" window ? Yes. Right-click on the track radio button at the top of the screen and go to Track Actions | Auto Regenerate Part of RealTracks.
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have you tried midi? your assumption that it will not sound good is not corrrect. the quality of sound does depend on the synth and the sample but lots of us use midi and in fact - i believe - playable RealTracks are midi using the samples from the RT recording. and of course finding the audio you need of the right three notes is almost impossible. with midi you can choose exactly what you want. for a full discussion on this read the post here............ https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=777473&page=1read the post and if you if you follow the link i put in one of my posts you'll find a sound clip of me doing exaclty what you want to do with a specific set of notes and midi
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Finally I found how to unfreeze the Audio track (in "Track Settings and Actions").
I can't use the Alt+F8 shortcut due to the lack of F keys on my laptop.
Is there another way to open the "Regenerate Parts of a Track" window ? Yes. Right-click on the track radio button at the top of the screen and go to Track Actions | Auto Regenerate Part of RealTracks. I found what I was looking for by clicking on "Regenerate window" (and not "Regenerate parts of Realtracks") Thank you for your time
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have you tried midi? your assumption that it will not sound good is not corrrect. the quality of sound does depend on the synth and the sample but lots of us use midi and in fact - i believe - playable RealTracks are midi using the samples from the RT recording. and of course finding the audio you need of the right three notes is almost impossible. with midi you can choose exactly what you want. for a full discussion on this read the post here............ https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=777473&page=1read the post and if you if you follow the link i put in one of my posts you'll find a sound clip of me doing exaclty what you want to do with a specific set of notes and midi
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I found what I was looking for by clicking on "Regenerate window" (and not "Regenerate parts of Realtracks")
Thank you for your time That's great. I hope it was of some value. Good luck with your project.
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Hi,
This is very interesting. I had a very bad image of the sound quality of Midi and you make me open my eyes on a new reality.
I am following your instructions but I don't understand what you mean by "click the notation icon". Where is it located ?
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Hi,
This is very interesting. I had a very bad image of the sound quality of Midi and you make me open my eyes on a new reality.
I am following your instructions but I don't understand what you mean by "click the notation icon". Where is it located ? I think the intention was to click the 'Views' tab and then select Piano Roll (or Notation), and enter the notes manually from there. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=25508&filename=2023-10-10_22-22-50.jpg)
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the BIAB GUI is a bit crowded so thanks to Audiotrack for the picture. let us know how you get on
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Technically this gives excellent results, but the Midi sounds of a banjo, a guitar, a mandolin is very far from expected, certainly in conjunction with RealTracks.
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Maybe this approach could be better:
- Open my Daw (Reaper)
- Go to Band in a Box in Reaper
- Drag my BiaB file to Reaper as a first track
- Create a second track
- Go to Kontakt and load my VST Bluegrass Banjo V3 (Boulder Sounds)
- Create just 3 notes in this second track
- Play both tracks together
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You do know you can load Kontakt and that very same VST bluegrass Banjo V3 in BIAB.
So of course you can do this in your DAW as you suggest, but this has to be just as doable in the box. If it is not, than shame on BIAB for being so cryptic and confusing for such a simple task.
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Technically this gives excellent results, but the Midi sounds of a banjo, a guitar, a mandolin is very far from expected, certainly in conjunction with RealTracks. I guess it may also depend on the quality of the sound source (VSTi / DXi etc) that the MIDI is playing through.
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Technically this gives excellent results, but the Midi sounds of a banjo, a guitar, a mandolin is very far from expected, certainly in conjunction with RealTracks. I guess it may also depend on the quality of the sound source (VSTi / DXi etc) that the MIDI is playing through. That is exactly what it is. You need to spend money to get good sounds. Indiginus has great banjo, guitar, and mandolin sounds: https://www.indiginus.com/homeHowever they are expensive and require the full version of Kontakt. Google/Bing "instrument name" vst and one will find a number of pay and free VSTis. Maybe a search will find good and less expensive sounds.
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Technically this gives excellent results, but the Midi sounds of a banjo, a guitar, a mandolin is very far from expected, certainly in conjunction with RealTracks. I guess it may also depend on the quality of the sound source (VSTi / DXi etc) that the MIDI is playing through. That is exactly what it is. You need to spend money to get good sounds. Indiginus has great banjo, guitar, and mandolin sounds: https://www.indiginus.com/homeHowever they are expensive and require the full version of Kontakt. Google/Bing "instrument name" vst and one will find a number of pay and free VSTis. Maybe a search will find good and less expensive sounds. You are right, quality costs money, in all fields. Actually I know Indiginius products, I have some of their excellent VST for making Bluegrass music. Kontakt being essential is also in my library.
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Technically this gives excellent results, but the Midi sounds of a banjo, a guitar, a mandolin is very far from expected, certainly in conjunction with RealTracks. I guess it may also depend on the quality of the sound source (VSTi / DXi etc) that the MIDI is playing through. This is not clear for me. What makes a Midi sound good or bad ? How can Midi play through samples? But I don't want to deviate from the main topic of this forum, so these questions are for later.
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You do know you can load Kontakt and that very same VST bluegrass Banjo V3 in BIAB.
So of course you can do this in your DAW as you suggest, but this has to be just as doable in the box. If it is not, than shame on BIAB for being so cryptic and confusing for such a simple task. This is certainly thrue, but BiaB is complicated enough for me not to have to add extra difficulties. Please remember, I am a newbie.
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if the midi banjo you have is not good enough, try to download a better version...........a quick google search found this https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/5809but there are many othres if the midi banjo sound you have is not very good. that's the beuaty of mdi
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if the midi banjo you have is not good enough, try to download a better version...........a quick google search found this https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/5809but there are many othres if the midi banjo sound you have is not very good. that's the beuaty of mdi Please forgive me not sharing your enthusiasm about Midi but I can't find good quality ones that could compete with VST based on samples.
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Please forgive me not sharing your enthusiasm about Midi but I can't find good quality ones that could compete with VST based on samples. Sounds like a bit of confusion regarding the difference between Midi Code and the sounds which are generated by the sample library. Combine that with the fact the "a couple notes" played on a banjo ain't goin sound all that good by themselves. But here is the real issue (well maybe just for me  ). What you are attempting to do should be the most simple and basic of operations. I did this in BIAB in the years past using my keyboard to record in the midi notes or by just manually entering them in piano roll. Then I would select a goto sound synth (internal or external) or even select a VSTi like Kontakt and it would work. Over the years I have moved much if not all of that workflow to a DAW. And today I do things in the DAW I never know possible when I was full time BIAB. Now, when I go back to try to illustrate a simple workflow in BIAB to do what you are requesting, I find myself dead in the water. It is actually painful to work like this. So, sorry I can't help you. I just hope someone else can come along who remembers how to do this and give a clear workflow video.
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the link i provided takes you to a vst based on samples and you drive it with midi............
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So, sorry I can't help you. I just hope someone else can come along who remembers how to do this and give a clear workflow video. In case no one recognized this ... it was a challenge. Certainly some one, other than me, remembers how to do what the OP is requesting and can put together a short instruction video? And while you are pondering this, how about someone othen than the two or three guys who answer 90% of all the questions in this forum step up and take lead on this. 
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the link i provided takes you to a vst based on samples and you drive it with midi............ Thanks for the link, but I will repeat myself, Yojo is a poor attempt to emulate a real banjo sound.
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Thanks for the link, but I will repeat myself, Yojo is a poor attempt to emulate a real banjo sound. - The free one? We're only end users. What methods did PG Music suggest you should utilize to get your desired result? The BiaB product is extensible, but doesn't purport to do provide every possible nuance for every available instrument. That's not what RealTracks are designed for. That's not what every MIDI controlled VSTi can accurately deliver. Have you considered a recording studio? A session there would probably give you recording with a guaranteed result that perfectly fits your needs.
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Please note I'm absolutely not complaining about the quality of the Midi tracks in Band in a Box.
I never did it, I only stated they were not adapted to my project.
I own enough excellent commercial Banjo VST's to perform the job.
I am sorry if I was not clear enough (Please remember English is not my mothertong).
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Thanks for clarifying. Did you manage to find a Banjo VSTi that worked successfully?
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- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!
All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!
It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!
The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.
The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
Whether you're exploring new features, checking out the latest RealTracks or Style PAKs, this is your go-to guide for Band-in-a-Box® 2026.
Check out this forum post for "One Stop Shopping" of our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Videos!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 100 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until May 15, 2026. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.
Holiday Weekend Hours
As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:
April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours
Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!
— Team PG
Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!
If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
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