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Originally Posted by MusicStudent
So did you actually hand anotate your melody via the piano roll/ anotation tool? Or did you have the melodist compose this track for you?

I put it in notation view and put in the notes on the sheet music. I first tried importing musicxml but that didn't really work so instead I just painstakingly typed in each note. Which is hard because the input tool is not very easy. Like, you have to put the note then do a "force accidental" if the note isn't natural. And then getting the right note you have to click the mouse just right, which usually takes 2 or 3 tries.

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The audio files were recorded at the stated tempo. There is only so far you can deviate (+/- 15 bpm?) before you lose quality audio.

I guess BIAB was made for jazz and not bluegrass. Again, why they would record at 130 and call it "fast bluegrass" is baffling. But, I just need a backing track to practice with, I'm not trying to record an album or anything.

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Regarding bluegrass tempos, are you just interested in how it sounds (which you say you are, despite the poor sound quality) or are you trying to get the annotation to be correct on the sheet music? Either way, I will have to defer to others how have specific experience with this genre in BIAB.

I just want it to alternate playing the rhythm and melody, so I can play along playing the melody and rhythm. It's a simple backing track for practice purposes.

Can you tell me how you got that Tracks toolbar to display? I am clicking everywhere but can't find any way to show other toolbars. My screen looks like this:

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The result:

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Ok thanks. I guess I'm still learning all the screens. It's still weird that when you put in a repeat, it doesn't just repeat it exactly, but flips things around.

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Also, can you tell me what you clicked to see the notation in that piano roll view? I have been doing it like sheet music.

This is done by selecting the Piano Roll from the Views tab:

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Can you tell me how you got that Tracks toolbar to display? I am clicking everywhere but can't find any way to show other toolbars. My screen looks like this:
I can see the Tracks Toolbar tab in the top RH part of your screen capture. Is that the one you are referring to?

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Anyway, I can't find where you say the melodist tempo is 85. If I click on Guitar2 and then Track Settings, there is no tempo setting there. Where do you see this? Also where do you see 130 for the RT? If that's true, they don't understand bluegrass. These songs are played like 180 to 220. I don't understand why they would make a real track at 130 and label it "Fast Bluegrass".

Maybe I'm wrong about typical bpms of these songs. I googled it and it seems they are usually recorded around 130-140. But I think it sounds a lot faster because they have a lot of 16th notes instead of 8th in the picking. I don't know, I'm still learning. I've been playing Blackberry Blossom reliably at 150 and it doesn't sound that fast. So I don't know. But I know in jams songs will get a lot faster than the recorded versions but I think that's just people feeling it and full of whiskey.

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Can you tell me how you got that Tracks toolbar to display? I am clicking everywhere but can't find any way to show other toolbars. My screen looks like this:
I can see the Tracks Toolbar tab in the top RH part of your screen capture. Is that the one you are referring to?

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Oh yep that's it. The other guy's looked different, like this:

Also - how are you pasting images in your post? I have to use "Attachment Manager" and it puts it at the bottom. It looks like you are able to just paste it in line with your text?

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Also - how are you pasting images in your post? I have to use "Attachment Manager" and it puts it at the bottom. It looks like you are able to just paste it in line with your text?

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Oh yep that's it. The other guy's looked different, like this:

There are Two (2) different views you can use - New or OLD. I'm old. Use these buttons to toggle.[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]


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There are Two (2) different views you can use - New or OLD. I'm old. Use these buttons to toggle.[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]

Awesome. Thanks.

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There are Two (2) different views you can use - New or OLD. I'm old.
Yes Dan, we know that already grin

Also, you can press <Crtl>T to toggle between the two views.

(BTW: I'm 'New' smile )

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Maybe I'm wrong about typical bpms of these songs. I googled it and it seems they are usually recorded around 130-140. But I think it sounds a lot faster because they have a lot of 16th notes instead of 8th in the picking. I don't know, I'm still learning. I've been playing Blackberry Blossom reliably at 150 and it doesn't sound that fast. So I don't know. But I know in jams songs will get a lot faster than the recorded versions but I think that's just people feeling it and full of whiskey.

I think this is why Cut Common time was added to BiaB a couple of years ago. I'm not specifically familiar with Blue-Grass performances. Others might know more.


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Maybe I'm wrong about typical bpms of these songs. I googled it and it seems they are usually recorded around 130-140. But I think it sounds a lot faster because they have a lot of 16th notes instead of 8th in the picking. I don't know, I'm still learning. I've been playing Blackberry Blossom reliably at 150 and it doesn't sound that fast. So I don't know. But I know in jams songs will get a lot faster than the recorded versions but I think that's just people feeling it and full of whiskey.

I think this is why Cut Common time was added to BiaB a couple of years ago. I'm not specifically familiar with Blue-Grass performances. Others might know more.
send a PM to bobflatpicker and ask him to comment here. Bob understands this topic.


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