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I thought it was about time I tried the BIAB VST3i plugin on Reaper. I'm using a RealTrack style (_STREET).

The "Send To Reaper" seems to do what I expect, but Drap and Drop is doing something quite odd. I've tried a few things, including RTFS.Most, but it seems consistently inconsistent as follows.

I generate the tracks in the plugin. The time it takes to do this varies and the generated tracks are sometimes vey full and sometimes quite sparse. I've often seleceted each track and done "generate entire track", which generally seems to give a full regeneration. However the oddities go further. If I use the Drag and Drop option to copy tracks to Reaper, sometimes it offers the options including "replace content" and sometimes it just pastes the track adding to the existing content. When it does this, it seems always(?) to paste a sparse content and always to paste a stereo track, despite the track itlsef being mono.

As so often I've spent too long on this already and not enough time practicing, so for the moment I'm just leaving that report as it is. If anyone wants to try replicating it.

I got the update in Decempber and this is the first time I've actually tried to use it for anything, partly as I'm so rarely in Windows, partly because I increasingly resent spending hours trying to find out why so many things behave oddly. BIAB is wearing me down.


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It's does take a long time working it all out, it still has issues that need fixing but Adar needs to wait on the Delphi programmers to get time to modify BBW4.
If sections don't show it could be the reapeaks that are missing, there is an action "Peaks: Build any missing peaks"
there is also a script to batch create all the reapeaks so tracks load instantly.
If tracks say mono but come in as stereo that means the actual source is stereo.
If you have too many issues you have the Import SGU script for Reaper.

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Originally Posted by MoultiPass
Personally I almost only use this version: saves space on the disk; saving generation time (between 2 and 6 seconds in total) and even saving space when saving the Reaper file since it does not generate any Wav. Honestly the best!
I'm presuming you mean the "Send To Reaper" options. In the modest work I've tried they seem to work OK and I'll likely try again when I've calmed down.

Part of my problem with all of the 'quirks' in BIAB is due to the effects of my depression, combined with my past engineering work where any such quirk demands attention with a view to a fix, so when I see one, I go into a mode where I try to prove, isolate, make repeatable and so on, with anything that looks like a bug. Unfortunately that tends to mean I do that more often than not, I get no work done on it, get angry and stressed, and don't get my music practice time. Add to that that half the time when I'm tracking one 'quirk' I find another; and another, and another...

I have to walk away for a while ... again.

Last edited by Gordon Scott; 02/12/24 09:40 AM. Reason: just a typo

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Originally Posted by Gordon Scott
[quote=MoultiPass]
Part of my problem with all of the 'quirks' in BIAB is due to the effects of my depression, combined with my past engineering work where any such quirk demands attention with a view to a fix, so when I see one, I go into a mode where I try to prove, isolate, make repeatable and so on, with anything that looks like a bug. Unfortunately that tends to mean I do that more often than not, I get no work done on it, get angry and stressed, and don't get my music practice time. Add to that that half the time when I'm tracking one 'quirk' I find another; and another, and another...

I have to walk away for a while ... again.

Exactly! You and me both brother! grin


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I must mention that I do not know whether this is a BIAB plug-in problem, a Reaper problem, a feature, or some combination or permutation of those.


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