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Well...this song is really different for me...not the style or tempo...these I've used a lot but the subject...a sad unrequited love song...this was my first song with Hayden and Natalie (Synthesizer V) so I wanted something brand new so I started writing and you know how it goes...the song sort of wrote itself...I used a melody I had composed a couple of weeks earlier (Melody in A https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14731101) ...I wanted a trio since I write for three part harmony (mostly)...well I have a lot to learn yet about manipulating the AI voices but here we go! ...so if you do...thanks for listening and I always appreciate your comments...Dan

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Dan, this IS different, and REALLY nice! You're going to be a force with your developing Synth V skills. Lovely song, and the vocals are crisply arranged, as I would expect. Like the sparse arrangement, too. Looking forward to your next one!


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Very nice indeed, Dan!

Those voices are almost perfect I think, I'm interested to read what our forum experts on AI voices will have to say, but I think you are almost there.

Nice song, very well produced as always.

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the vocal work is excellent with great mixing.
very pleasant to listen to.
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Wow, this sounds excellent! Very inviting title and the whole story lives up to it. The simple arrangement is very pleasant and doesn't need anything else to highlight the message. Great folk type of melody.

And those vocals... Hayden sounds very natural, the best Hayden I've heard so far. You have made great work with him, especially in the mixing. And those harmonies are sweet to my ears, very professional quality - your vocal experience really shows. Natalie sounds bit distant, but I guess that's how you intended it.

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Originally Posted by DC Ron
Dan, this IS different, and REALLY nice! You're going to be a force with your developing Synth V skills. Lovely song, and the vocals are crisply arranged, as I would expect. Like the sparse arrangement, too. Looking forward to your next one!
Ron...I really appreciate your comments...it's a new frontier out there and I'm trying to learn the ups and downs...comments like yours encourage me to trek on...thanks...Dan

Originally Posted by BlueAttitude
Very nice indeed, Dan!
Those voices are almost perfect I think, I'm interested to read what our forum experts on AI voices will have to say, but I think you are almost there.
Nice song, very well produced as always.
Thanks Dave...yeah I hope the pros at this give it a listen...thanks for your response...Dan

Originally Posted by laurent4114
the vocal work is excellent with great mixing.
very pleasant to listen to.
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Laurent...so glad you enjoyed it...Dan
Originally Posted by jannesan
Wow, this sounds excellent! Very inviting title and the whole story lives up to it. The simple arrangement is very pleasant and doesn't need anything else to highlight the message. Great folk type of melody.
And those vocals... Hayden sounds very natural, the best Hayden I've heard so far. You have made great work with him, especially in the mixing. And those harmonies are sweet to my ears, very professional quality - your vocal experience really shows. Natalie sounds bit distant, but I guess that's how you intended it.
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Hey Janne...yeah, I'm becoming attached to Heyden...he seems like a real nice guy and Natalie is gorgeous...the best thing is that they take instruction very well...thanks for your thoughts...Dan


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Beautiful, especially the vocal harmonies sound really good.
The sparse arrangement is perfect for this kind of song, very good choice.

A little nit: listen to the word "why" at 2:26: no singer would hold this syllable THIS way for so long.
Even for a real singer, this would sound artificial
You have several places like this.
Use several notes (melismatic singing) for these words, perhaps with some more vibrato at the end.

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Dan, I don't know a thing about using AI voices - but man you seem to be making great headway with them... and you've had the production and writing down for a long time!

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Yes Dan this is different for you but your excellence shines through.
Super synth vocals.
You know how to write three part harmony perfectly.
Super backing tracks.
Great mix.


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Originally Posted by B.D.Thomas
Beautiful, especially the vocal harmonies sound really good.
The sparse arrangement is perfect for this kind of song, very good choice.
A little nit: listen to the word "why" at 2:26: no singer would hold this syllable THIS way for so long.
Even for a real singer, this would sound artificial
You have several places like this.
Use several notes (melismatic singing) for these words, perhaps with some more vibrato at the end.
The rest is really good and well arranged [Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]
B.D...thanks for your comments...I truly appreciate your instruction and your "nit"...I have a lot to learn...Dan


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Dan, I don't know a thing about using AI voices - but man you seem to be making great headway with them... and you've had the production and writing down for a long time!
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Hey Brad...I don't know much about AI voices...but I'm learning (SLOWLY!)...thanks fopr your thoughts...Dan


Originally Posted by MarioD
Yes Dan this is different for you but your excellence shines through.
Super synth vocals.
You know how to write three part harmony perfectly.
Super backing tracks.
Great mix.
Mario...thanks for the encouragement...I appreciate it...Dan


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Oh, yes, Dan, very differewnt for you, but I hear you in there so well. Excellent melody, and to my ears it sounds like you're doing a fine job manipulating those synths. Unrequited love maybe should be sad, but (maybe the best part is that) this one still has an uplifting feel to it. I had to give it a few spins, and on the last one I searched for that famous Simmons modulation. The song is so good, I wasn't disappointed.


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Hi, Dan.

Excellent vocal, subtle harmony, and excellent arrangement.

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It’s cool to hear the three part harmony that is one of your hallmarks and we know that must be satisfying to you to be able to continue with that.

We do agree with B.D. on the need for more “humanizing” of the lead vocal. As this is just your second project with the synth vocals, we have not doubt that you’ll have them singing like you in no time. 😊

Excellent mix!

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This is beautiful Dan.

I really enjoyed this!!

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Dan, this is really well done even though I prefer your vocals to AI. Speaking of which, the first use of the lead singer's word 'All' in each of the choruses sounds flat to me but the second one sounds awesome. It could be just my ear but please check it out to see if I'm missing something.

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Dan,

A beautiful song. Wonderful melody.
Nice job with the voices. Amazingly "real".
A nice, delicate track.
Well mixed.
A lovely listen.

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Hey! what's with this 2:49 stuff??????
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Originally Posted by BabuMusic
Oh, yes, Dan, very differewnt for you, but I hear you in there so well. Excellent melody, and to my ears it sounds like you're doing a fine job manipulating those synths. Unrequited love maybe should be sad, but (maybe the best part is that) this one still has an uplifting feel to it. I had to give it a few spins, and on the last one I searched for that famous Simmons modulation. The song is so good, I wasn't disappointed.
Yo Marty...no modulations here...it's baby steps for Hayden, Natalie and me so far...but stay tuned there's a modulation on the horizon I can sense it! thanks...Dan
Originally Posted by dcuny
Hi, Dan.

Excellent vocal, subtle harmony, and excellent arrangement.
Love it. smile
David...thanks so much...Dan

Originally Posted by Janice & Bud
It’s cool to hear the three part harmony that is one of your hallmarks and we know that must be satisfying to you to be able to continue with that.

We do agree with B.D. on the need for more “humanizing” of the lead vocal. As this is just your second project with the synth vocals, we have not doubt that you’ll have them singing like you in no time. 😊
Excellent mix!
Kudos!
J&B
J&B...thanks much...yeah give me three parts or give me death (a little dramatic perhaps?)...you know what I mean...thanks guys...Dan

Originally Posted by Dewey_MI
Dan, this is really well done even though I prefer your vocals to AI. Speaking of which, the first use of the lead singer's word 'All' in each of the choruses sounds flat to me but the second one sounds awesome. It could be just my ear but please check it out to see if I'm missing something.
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Dewey...thanks...oddly enough when the voices go to their lower registers they tend to go flat (just like real people...I love it!!)...I can hear it too ...not sure what I'll do about that...probably make them sing in higher keys? who knows?...thanks again...Dan

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Dan,

A beautiful song. Wonderful melody.
Nice job with the voices. Amazingly "real".
A nice, delicate track.
Well mixed.
A lovely listen.
fj
Hey! what's with this 2:49 stuff??????
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Hey Floyd...thanks for your comments...the 2:49 comment (which I appreciate) is about making the guys sound more human and even though the note is very low and no singer would choose it I suppose...I can sing that note and I thought it fits the melody...so? maybe it's just me...anyway this song is one that to use your term is a "throw away" song for me...though to be honest I may use the melody again with new lyrics to fit my musical mission statement better...thanks again...Dan


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Dan,

This is a great song and an excellent presentation with Synth V voices. Hard to believe it is your first song with these two singers. Everything sounds great!

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Originally Posted by rsdean
Dan,
This is a great song and an excellent presentation with Synth V voices. Hard to believe it is your first song with these two singers. Everything sounds great!
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Bob...thanks for your comments...they are much appreciated...Dan


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