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my wife needs a small easy to use spreadsheet program
that operates on all win OS's..
open office is huge. 150 mb.
can anybody recommend something lean for just simple spreadsheets ??
nothing fancy. free would be nice too cos she only does
the occasional spreadsheet a couple of times a year.
i'm no spreadsheet guru so thought someone here might know.
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have you looked at SHAREWARE.COM? It's run by CNET, and so the programs are usually safe. Search for spreadsheet... good chance you'll find something small AND free

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Are you sure that you don't already have MS works? It usually comes free with XP or win 7?

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I have a gmail account therefore have the Google spreadsheet. Neat thing is that you can set it with permissions so that others can use it, or modify it, or not, or share it however you want. And the thing is stored and backed up on their computers...you have no program, no need to save it and back it up..etc.

Other than that I often work in Open Office and store the result on Google....


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oops ..

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thanks for the replies ..appreciated.
been doing lots of googling etc includeing cnet etc.
couldnt find anything that isnt BIG.
a question for john C.
the google sheet idea is a good one mate.
and i mentioned it to wifey...but the concern is security
n being on someone elses system.
is she being paranoid john ??

tis a pity one has to get the whole open office suite instead
of say just Calc. you would think they would modularise it.


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Are you sure that you don't already have MS works? It usually comes free with XP or win 7?

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check her computer for works, she probably has it although mine came on a separate disc.

you may want to download easy office. its a great suite and calc is a very powerful ss app. there may be free calc templates available for her exact application.

here is a free/open source spreadsheet program but i don't know anything about it.

http://www.gnome.org/~jody/gnumeric/win32/gnumeric-1.9.16-20091130.exe

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I'm not the paranoid type.

So someone wants to see the Christmas Cakes sales totals from the Shriners? Have at it, interesting reading, I did the sales manager thing for 6 years, just gave that up.

Or they want to see my home budget. Intersting stuff that. My estimate how how much I'm spending on what...or investing. Earth shattering. No account #'s, no personal info there.

I'd be more paranoid about what goes out in the garbage bags. Bills with your account numbers. You VISA statement, are you NUTS? Shred that stuff.

I put my Dad onto it for the Seniors Association of the western area of the city. The executive all can see the numbers. Exciting stuff.

I don't know, I wouldn't be putting the million dollar budget for some place on it complete with headings and acocunt numbers. Otherwise, what's to steal?

Google is coming out with a new computer, they will run a stripped down version of Linux, instant internet, software is on the net, gmail, picassa, spreadsheet, wordprocessor, graphics editor, html generator, all on a net book. Seems ok to me. For music one box, and for everything else another. They are talking about 5 second boot times.
Works with printers..works on your network. Don't know , is this the future?


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We use Google's Spreadsheet and Calendar in our Company... It's pretty secure and password protected. It doesn't have all the MS Office Excel bells and whistles but I don't know how sophisticated is her requirements... I personally wouldn't want to give up my full-fledged smart Excel, with all the MACROs, etc... LOL!

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manning, what is her specific need? there might be a easy office or excel template for free.

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thanks for all the replies.
its a very simple spread sheet.
just numbers with totals .
also then a chart showing linearly how totals have gone up or down over
calender periods. nothing fancy.
dont worry .. sounds like google spread is the thing.

re netbook by google.
i was wondring when someone like google would come at MS
in this sorta direction.


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I would bite the bullet and go with either Open office.org or just get a version of MS office. Also look around for a older version of lotus that was a good one. But Excel is the king and openoffice is a good substitute.

Here is a cheap, but not free option http://officebestdeal.com/

OPPs I did a little research on this due to taking a close look at it and found that it is a scam, it is nothing but OPen Office re named and sold for $12 Hey open office is free!!

I use Open Office at home for the spreadsheet and it is very close to Excel, but i will say in my opinion Excell is a little bit better. There are more tools in Excel. But for easy preads and stuff OO is pretty good.

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Used to be that you could order open office on CDs if you wanted to - paid for shipping and such.

Now it looks like they are dealing through approved distributors. Here's the link for Canada:

http://www.jbox.ca/software/office-software/

It's not really that big of a download if you have any reasonable DSL connection.

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cheers chaps ..but all got sorted by my wifey.

HOWEVER...lol....and now for sumpin completely different...
we like to take pictures of our pets with a kodak digital camera
which hooks up over usb of course to transfer pics to the pc.
anyhoo..we have kodak easyshare software that came with
the camera. but its b b b bloated software..lol.
i installed it once n i feel the whole pc is being taken over.
too big imho.
does anyone know of non bloated software that lets us transfer
the pet pics or say holiday pics from the digital camera via
usb to the pc ?? just something simple.??


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We've had software come with our cameras and also have purchased some--PhotoShop Elements and MS Digital Image (no longer published).. However, you can get Picasa (from Google) for free. Personally, I really like Picasa and it's very user friendly photo editing. FWIW.

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Does windows scanner and camera wizard see the camera? That's the big question. Uninstall the bloatware, then plug in the camera. It may still appear in Windows Explorer or be found by Windows as a device to load without all the bloatware. I have had this happen, just might be lucky.

Also, does the camera have chip and do you have a card reader?
Our Canon's pictures can be downloaded by using the chip in the reader, even though USB does not connect on a couple machines here.


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hi thanks for the replies mates.
that picasa looks like it will do the job.
its just daft pet pics.

only thing i couldnt find in picasa is..
does it deal with "read eye" ??
rharv(replying to your pm now mate.)


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I've come into this discussion late, as usual, but I'd like to add my 2 cents worth.

I strongly support John Conley's idea of using Google Docs. My computer club uses Google Docs for all its membership details and account keeping etc. Some of these docs are shared with selected members of the committee, otherwise they are kept private. To date we have 17 documents kept this way.
The advantages of doing what we do are
1) we don't need any commercial software
2) we can share (or keep private) any of our documents
3) and this is the BIG one - we don't have to worry about back-ups and computer crashes. Good ol' Mister Google does all our back-ups for us and stores them, not only away from our club, but over seas. You can't get much more away than that! And ask your self this - be honest - how many of you have ALL your mission critical documents backed up every day and stored well away from your premises.
Add to that the fact that anyone with permission can access their documents anywhere in the world and you can see we have a very flexible system.

All this is known as "Computing in the cloud" and at first Microsoft didn't want to know anything about it, but now they have seen what is happening in computer land and they are busy making the same applications as Google.


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how much data can i store on google? will it allow BIG files say 2gig or more? where can i get more info?

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Here ya go Don
http://picasa.google.com/

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