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I understand the mark-up of products for profit but for me to start out for what I need is $700.00. I was laid off last year and there is no return as company is gone. I use my time while my wife works two jobs to keep us afloat playing music at home. When I did buy band in a box in 1994 it was great at the time and did all I needed plus powertracks for my midi but now it seems I would be better off going hardware/software, pro tools etc. I love music but the pro version barely has enough for a beginner to start. Any and all answers to this would be appreciated as I was about to make a purchase until I saw how much it would cost to start out.
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Hello. As I mentioned in your other thread about horns, it couldn't hurt to call PG Music and ask them if you qualify for any discount on an upgrade. You did not reply to my post, so I do not know if you tried that.
It is hard for us to know what you need, but if you are "starting out" you could do a great deal with the Pro version. It certainly has far more power than any of us had with this program just a few years ago, and we were able to make some pretty good music. Then, when you outgrow that, call PG Music sales and ask for their pricing to upgrade to a more powerful Pak. Or, wait until the next program update, which has traditionally occurred twice per year, and upgrade then, since they have several price points depending on what you already own.
This is a most fair company to deal with. Besides, I've always thought it was great that they did not make everyone buy everything just to start; you can ease into it.
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I thought I did reply, Maybe I am not doing something right. I do see my answers under horns still sorry about that. I hope this gets to to the right place.
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Hi. Yes, you had three replies on various topics, just nothing to the idea of calling PG Music.
I also don't recall if you said anything yet about what kind of equipment you already have, such as what soundcard, MIDI synth, etc. That could be helpful for us as we go forward.
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Okay, I was using a yamaha mt-100 cassette 4 track recorder, now I have a Boss 1600, I bought a rode nt1-a mic, etc. Before this I would record from midi tracks to the mt-100 through a spirit 16 track console, then it would go to my effects rack, which has, mav-8 midi patch bay, alesis compressor/limiter, alesis midiverb 4, dod 430 equalizer, then to bbe 462 sonic maximizer. Then I would download to my Sony minidisc recorder. Now I want to do all through the br-1600. I still think I need my rack setup before mastering but I am not sure. I like and play rock and blues, so I need rock and blues patches with the realtracks type of thing and I still wish there were horn sections. I hope this helps.
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ps my keyboard is a korg 01wfd
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Hi critter,
I take it that you are looking at the Audiophile edition. Can I suggest that if the budget is tight, it might be worthwhile thinking about the UltraPlusPak or the EverythingPak. I have the UltraPlusPak and it's sensational (the UltraPlusPak is the cheapest product that has all Realstyles, Realdrums and Style Sets). I also note on PGMusic's website that it says "Upgrade from 2008 or earlier". The 1994 edition certainly fits that criterion.
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That's right Noel. If he's a registered user he could get the Ultra Plus Pak for $299.
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Not to confuse the matter too much, but I bought the MegaPAK (the minimum level that had ALL styles), and have been quite happy with the results, even though it had a limited set of RealDrums/RealTracks.
Here's why it worked for me: After some initial experimentation, I never used the RealDrums/RealTracks at all. I now use MIDI tracks only, and just route the output through some high quality virtual instruments and it sounds fantastic. Also, I feel like I have much better control over the MIDI than I do the "Real" instruments.
critter, if you're on a budget and you're okay with tweaking/routing MIDI channels, you might consider an upgrade to the MegaPAK coupled with a good, yet inexpensive soft-sampler -w- library, such as Vir2's "Vi.One", which is only $99 at Musician's Friend/Guitar Center.
But this is just my way of working. The "Real" instruments in BiaB certainly give some bang for the buck in terms of rapidly getting something going that sounds pro, out of the box, and the UltraPlusPAK for a $299 upgrade price, shipped ready to rock on a USB drive, is a pretty good deal.
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Patience is a grown man's virtue. Santa has been very good to me. If you wait until the Christmas specials and update every year from there, you will find that you will be able to afford a package that will eventually include everthing you need. However you will find yourself getting a little more aggressive and buying applications you want instead of need. That's the benifit of Band-in-a-box. They make everything (options) so affordable, that you just can't resist, espically during the holidays. Most of the up-grades I have purchased over the years averaged from $39 to approximately $160, but I bit the bullet and waited for the holiday specials. Therefore as a start, you could upgrade to 2010 Pro for approximately $69. That would get you Real Band, lots of Styles and some Real Tracks. Spreading your money out over time is probably a good way for you, as it was and is for me. The reason I up-grade every year is not because of features I may or may not need, but because I know that the function of the program get better and better every year. Hope this helps.
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I on the other hand always add real instruments to my stuff. Always.
And I have a Ketron SD2 but the two work well together, and I thought the VSC DXi worked ok too. Not as well as the Ketron but it worked ok.
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Hello. As I mentioned in your other thread about horns, it couldn't hurt to call PG Music and ask them if you qualify for any discount on an upgrade. You did not reply to my post, so I do not know if you tried that.
It is hard for us to know what you need, but if you are "starting out" you could do a great deal with the Pro version. It certainly has far more power than any of us had with this program just a few years ago, and we were able to make some pretty good music. Then, when you outgrow that, call PG Music sales and ask for their pricing to upgrade to a more powerful Pak. Or, wait until the next program update, which has traditionally occurred twice per year, and upgrade then, since they have several price points depending on what you already own.
This is a most fair company to deal with. Besides, I've always thought it was great that they did not make everyone buy everything just to start; you can ease into it.
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This might sound a little hard but i do not mean it that way. But instead of playing music while the wife works two jobs waiting for a job to come your way. Throw a load of tools in your truck go down to all the local real estate offices and see if they need any handy work done for repos and home sales that might ned attention before escrow closes. Change a few Locks, fix a few hinges, patch a drywall hole or two make a few dollars and help the misses out, she might be more favorable to you upgrading the toys if you were helping to haul the load.
If not the handy type get a job flippin burgers, greeting at walmart, baggin groceries, checking at Lowes, stocking shelves, twirling signs, washing cars, fixing window screen, mowing lawns, cash register at the gas station. Anything. I was out of work for almost two years and i made $40,000 that year doing odd jobs and repairs.
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I just responded to your entry, at length but it would not post. Bottom line is I tried all that and in Sheboygan Wisconsin there is nothing left. I have tried, nothing there in any form. Unemployment is high here, my wife flips burgers part time at Mcdonalds and her hours are cut so salary managers can do it due to lack of sales. She has a full time factory job which could close up shop anytime. Like I ended the post that would not post, I have always been the bread winner, 10 years ago I had a full time job, a part time job and did week end gigs in a band. Bottom line, I feel like an invalid leaving on unemployment benefits.
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Robh,
I don't want to call you an jerk so i won't. I've been out of work in NC for over three years. There's a new tractor supply store moving into town. They advertised for 17 $7.00/hr positions. They got over 1000 applications according to the NCESC. Don't go slinging this holier then though crap until you know what you're talking about.
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This has led me to add a few things to my prayers this morning.
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My appologies guys, there are difficult times out there. My point is that there are ways to make money, maybe not great money, but money. I have seen folks struggle and it is disheartening to say the least. I can see my comments were rather insensitive and i truely am sorry for that. I meant to motivate rather than put down, but it certainly did not come off as intended.
Critter i am sorry for your struggles, and hope you find the way through it all. I guess my point is that in truely bad times one needs to do more than just appply for the run of the mill jobs, they need to think outside the box. I was trying to offer some of that.
Silvertones i agree i was being a jerk, without meaning too, but still. I do not consider myself holier than anyone, but i also know what it feels like to be unemployed, I spend a year cleaning up the mess from a business that went south, and two more without a real job. I guess i was fortunate because i found things to do, and worked almost every day. I did odd jobs, repaired peoples homes, worked with anyone that needed help. Took on part time jobs that were only temporary, but somehow made it all work.
I hope you all take my thoughts as intended, and not as they came out. Rob
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Apologies accepted Rob.Water over the dam.
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Robh,
1st of all I am sharing the story below with the intent to help Critter in his times of need. And for what it's worth I took your post as being constructive also, not condescending in anyway. You mentioned repairing screens, and that struck a chord with me (Abm7) no just kidding about the musical chord, but after my 1st retirement I felt like I could still be productive along with playing a few music gigs here and there. Not that I needed the additional income but with the hopes of leaving jobs for my grandchildren in times of tough economies. So with this said here is my attempt to give Critter some advice that hopefully will help him to start bringing in some additional income. So I looked around at how the energy cost rise was affecting every homeowner and looked for a niche business in that field. To make a long story short I started a little solar screen business. And Critter this is a business you can start without investing one cent!
Just find someone a town or two away already in the business and work out pricing with them where there is still profit left for you selling and installing the screens job after you pay him for building them. If you can use a tape measure and a screwdriver you are ready to go.
I did this three years ago and starting last year one of my sons started working with me partime in our own shop manufacturing and installing our own solar screens. The income is still not at a place where it will support a family but the profits did start instantly and it has purchased a shop full of equipment and inventory that "by the Grace of God" will start turning into sweet profit this spring.
So Critter please don’t let yourself get beat up by the tough times you are going through, as often through adversity comes entrepreneurship and better times. Look for the need out there, I am sure that many people in your neck of the woods are still working and have homes and businesses to take care of, besides the many who are looking for ways to lower their home or business energy cost.
Critter, please PM, call or email me if you think I can be of any assistance.
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
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Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
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These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
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- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
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Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
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Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
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In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
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If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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