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Just installed Biab 2010 Ultrapack.  I've got my audio and midi set up (Biab plays my Yamaha Motif fine, and I can hear Realtracks and record audio (bass line) just fine) but when I go to render, strange things happen. The rendered .wav file only includes the Realtracks and recorded audio, not the Midi from my Motif. I have selected my M-Audio Profire 2626 as my recording device in the "Sound" window that pops up when I start the "Render to Audio File" tool, and the "Merge in Audio Track" box is checked too. When BiaB is done rendering the song (Herky Jerky), I get 2 .wav files, one called Herky Jerky_Render, and one called Herky Jerky_Render_Audio_Rendered. The "Herky Jerky" file has only the bass part I recorded, and the "Herky Jerky_Render_Audio_Rendered" only has the realtracks and my audio, not the midi generated audio from my Motif via the M-Audio interface. Any help would be appreciated...
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You can't render using an external device, only dxi. You have to do a realtime recording.
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I tried to install the Roland VSC DXi, but a message box popped up that had some kind of text like "unsupported_OS" if I recall.
I thought that weird, as the advertisement for 2010 BiaB states Windows 7 support (which is what my os is), but since I was going to use my Motif, I didn't pay it any attention. Now that I know that BiaB can't render via external synth's, and the Roland VSC-DXi soft synth isn't supported, I have no idea as to what to do!!!
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Here's another gem, while I was trying to re-install the Roland VSC-DXi synth (to see if i got that "unsupported message right) it installed without an "unsupported" message, this time. Thinking I was good, I checked the box in the "MIDI/Audio Drivers" set up for "Use VST/DXi Synth" and then went back to the Midi Output driver wizard. Still no VSC DXi, so I went to uncheck the "Use VST/DXi Synth" box and go back to my Motif via the M-Audio MIDI connection, and now, when I try to uncheck the "Use VST/DXi Synth" box, I get a "Band-in-a-Box Application has stopped working" pop up from Windows, and I only have a choice to close the program.
So now, I have no way to use MIDI whatsoever, and no way to get any back.
WHAT A MESS!!! This is one of the most frustrating installations I've ever experienced (oh except maybe that Presonus Firewire interface...that was a doozy).
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I tried to install the Roland VSC DXi, but a message box popped up that had some kind of text like "unsupported_OS" if I recall.
I thought that weird, as the advertisement for 2010 BiaB states Windows 7 support (which is what my os is), but since I was going to use my Motif, I didn't pay it any attention. Now that I know that BiaB can't render via external synth's, and the Roland VSC-DXi soft synth isn't supported, I have no idea as to what to do!!!
Let me try to clarify this situation.
If you are using an external MIDI hardware synth, there is no way that the CPU has access to the sounds that external synth generates and thus no way for it to put them into your "Rendered" song.
On top of that, even if you did have the VSC DXi installed, your song would not sound the same as it would use the MIDI patches from the VSC and not the ones from your hardware MIDI synth.
The only way to get an audio file of what you are hearing from any hardware MIDI synth is to do it the old fashioned way: You must hook up the audio output L & R channels of that MIDI synth to the L & R channel Line inputs of your sound device, and record the performance from beginning to end.
This is not a fault of the program at all. It is the only way it can be done when a hardware MIDI synth is part of the equation.
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"The only way to get an audio file of what you are hearing from any hardware MIDI synth is to do it the old fashioned way: You must hook up the audio output L & R channels of that MIDI synth to the L & R channel Line inputs of your sound device, and record the performance from beginning to end."
Indeed, that's what I thought I was doing. In fact, at the start of the rendering process, a window pops up allowing me to select an Audio input source...and it had my M-Audio already selected. Seeing that, my thought was that during the rendering process, the external synth audio via the M-Audio interface would be added via the "Merge in Audio Track" check box.
Now I realize that that check box means that the pre-recorded audio track(s) will be rendered with the song, and I still have no idea why the input select window appeared. Now that I've downloaded the trial Coyote DXi synth (since the included Roland VSC DXi synth does not support Windows 7 64 bit), I don't see that audio input pop up window anymore.
All is well, and in another month, it's going to cost me another $40 to keep the Coyote synth going, unless Roland releases a 64 bit Windows 7 driver for the VSC3 soft synth before then.
Jeepers...
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