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A cheerful reflection on what might have been. THANKS for all the helpful reviews of past songs and in advance for your input on this one. Am still catching up from the holidays so apologies to those showcase tunes I haven't gotten to yet... Wrong Place, Wrong Time Key=G , Tempo 118, Length (m:s)=3:19 Style is _NAUSEA.STY (Nausea '90s Pop Rock with Organ) RealTracks in style: ** N/A ** 995:Bass, Electric, HardRockLA Ev 120 RealTracks in style: ** N/A ** 2764:Organ, Rhythm CountryBluesRockMike Ev 110 RealTracks in style: ** N/A ** 632:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopAmericanMuted Ev 120 RealTracks in style: ** N/A ** 1259:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopShiningRockA-B Ev 120 RealDrums in style:RockHardKick^02-a:Closed Hat, Snare , b:Ride, Snare Handclaps: EZ Drummer Lyrics: R.W. Davis Vocals: D.A. Hughes Me: Odd jobs Lyrics: The depth in your eyes Caused me to shudder And killed all the lies I could have muttered It would have done no good To speak my thoughts ‘Cause we both knew It was not our fault We met in the wrong place It was the wrong time I fell in love with your face But it made me blind I never knew the taste Of having you as mine We met in the wrong place It was the wrong time The depth in your eyes The smile on your lips Oh, you looked so nice That I couldn’t resist Yeah, I might have tried it Or tried to act cool I might have applied it But I didn’t know the rules We met in the wrong place It was the wrong time I fell in love with your face But it made me blind I never knew the taste Of having you as mine We met in the wrong place It was the wrong time We met in the wrong place....
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Hi DC.
Tight sounding arrangement and fine melody.
To my ears the main vocal sounds a bit harsh and could use a bit of eq warmth.
I like it though.
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Nice pop song. This was fun to listen to.
I like the choice of the style. Nice 80's sounding pop rock.
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This is quintissential 60's pop if I've ever heard it! what a fun song (though I suppose the lyric is not fun)...this one makes you want to dance...great production indeed...the vocals were spot-on and reminicient of the light pop music of the late 60's and 70's...it reminded me of Peter Noon (Herman's Hermits) or Gary Lewis and the Playboys, etc. Loved it!
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Hi,
This is a promising song and good vocals.
It could perhaps benefit from a bit of development - maybe an instrumental solo in the middle and a "middle 8" to give it some light and shade.
Enjoyable.
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Hi DC.Tight sounding arrangement and fine melody. To my ears the main vocal sounds a bit harsh and could use a bit of eq warmth. I like it though. Vic Vic, THANKS for the listen. Yep, high frequency hearing loss often trips me up on EQ side. Will listen again with a reference track to see if that helps. Nice pop song. This was fun to listen to. I like the choice of the style. Nice 80's sounding pop rock. Herb, was sure the B3 would keep me in the decade of the 60s. Thanks for promoting me in the rock and roll timeline! Glad you enjoyed it. This is quintissential 60's pop if I've ever heard it! what a fun song (though I suppose the lyric is not fun)...this one makes you want to dance...great production indeed...the vocals were spot-on and reminicient of the light pop music of the late 60's and 70's...it reminded me of Peter Noon (Herman's Hermits) or Gary Lewis and the Playboys, etc. Loved it! Firesong, OOF! Just when Herb promoted me to the 80's you've rolled me back another 10-20 years. Creating the urge to dance is very flattering. My mental storyboard when I put this together played a bit like the dance scene in Pulp Fiction. Love that stuff. THANKS for the input! Hi This is a promising song and good vocals.It could perhaps benefit from a bit of development - maybe an instrumental solo in the middle and a "middle 8" to give it some light and shade. Enjoyable.Best Regards Nigel Nigel, great points, and I do prefer having an instrumental or middle eight, or BOTH. For this song I was shooting for the sub three minute pop song format, so jettisoned those as style choices. May have to build those back out for the album version though. Ha! FWIW, I STILL failed to get this under 3:00...THANKS for the listen!
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DC Ron, this is a great song
Super vocal and harmonies
Great lyrics
Great pop song genre
Very danceable tune
I would put this in the Gary Lewis and the Playboys era, i.e. the 1960s.
Good mix but FWIW I would bring the B3's volume up. That would definitely put it in the 60's.
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Hi Ron,
Man, your music is always so entertaining! Your singer always comes through with great performances. Of course, you always feed him great material to work with. That's a big plus. Still, he tops it off perfectly every time.
I really liked the hand claps that came in around 2:40 . That helped to further define it as a great sound from the early-to-mid '60s. For me, that was a great era for rock music. I was in high school at the time. Yeah, I'm older than the original recipe for dirt. But I got to enjoy some great music back in the day! And this would have been a perfect fit.
You keep pumping out one great hit after another. I know I'm in for a treat every time I click on one of your songs. It gives the feel of something in the middle between Gary Lewis & The Playboys and The Dave Clark Five. Maybe even a tiny bit of Manfred Mann.
Great listen - thanks for the big smile on my face! It's been a challenging day - I needed that!
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DC Ron, this is a great song Super vocal and harmonies Great lyrics Great pop song genre Very danceable tune I would put this in the Gary Lewis and the Playboys era, i.e. the 1960s. Good mix but FWIW I would bring the B3's volume up. That would definitely put it in the 60's. Marty, THANKS for the listen! Yeah, went back and forth on placement of the B3. There's a a wide dynamic range on this RT (and many other BiaB organs) and so It doesn't sit perfectly to my ears without more manipulation than I had the patience for. I should work on that patience thing. Ha! Glad you enjoyed it! Hi Ron, Man, your music is always so entertaining! Your singer always comes through with great performances. Of course, you always feed him great material to work with. That's a big plus. Still, he tops it off perfectly every time. I really liked the hand claps that came in around 2:40 . That helped to further define it as a great sound from the early-to-mid '60s. For me, that was a great era for rock music. I was in high school at the time. Yeah, I'm older than the original recipe for dirt. But I got to enjoy some great music back in the day! And this would have been a perfect fit. You keep pumping out one great hit after another. I know I'm in for a treat every time I click on one of your songs. It gives the feel of something in the middle between Gary Lewis & The Playboys and The Dave Clark Five. Maybe even a tiny bit of Manfred Mann. Great listen - thanks for the big smile on my face! It's been a challenging day - I needed that! Alan Alan, sorry for your challenging day! I've said it before, but playing a role in creating a smile is the highest compliment I can process. So THANK YOU! Yeah, Dusty has a killer voice and an encyclopedic musical vocabulary to draw on. He's the best. The handclaps seemed like the obvious danceable accent on the final chorus. They were fun to do, too. Glad you enjoyed the song!
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Ron,
Man! I enjoy your music!
Quality writing, interesting Production - with your own twists, not just copying templates from the past...
D.A.'s vocals are always right on for the songs.
And a good mix.
Catchy.
Good Stuff.
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Really Cool song Ron. It has a real 80s pop radio feel. The mix reminds me of the Cars but the sound reminds me of something else, maybe those guys who did Whip It. Sounds great!  By the way, who are your favorite bands from that Era?
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Ron, Man! I enjoy your music! Quality writing, interesting Production - with your own twists, not just copying templates from the past...D.A.'s vocals are always right on for the songs. And a good mix. Catchy. Good Stuff. fj Floyd, gee, THANKS for the listen and kind words! Can't claim credit for the amazing (IMHO) lyrics and vocals. I'm just trying to coax them into something fun to listen to. Needless to say, there's a lot of stuff on the cutting room floor. Ha!
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Good stuff! It's brings to mind several types of styles and time periods, but is uniquely yours. Very, good. Like the mix and the overall sound is great.
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Really Cool song Ron. It has a real 80s pop radio feel. The mix reminds me of the Cars but the sound reminds me of something else, maybe those guys who did Whip It. Sounds great! By the way, who are your favorite bands from that Era? David, well, THANKS! Favorite bands of that era... I was lucky in that I could literally walk to the Agora Ballroom in Atlanta and see a lot of the seminal bands of the late 70s and early 80s. REM and The B-52s were just two of the many amazing LOCAL bands. Those two weren't even my favorites at the time (but they're right up there now). We also had a great college radio station (WRAS). I never listened to popular radio except by accident. Once I was driving in a friend's car and the DJ said, "Here's the blockbuster Number One song in America for the last 13 weeks, Debby Boone and You Light Up My Life..." I had never heard of the song or Ms Boone. I could not process how this was popular taste, and didn't try. Music I listened to a LOT during that time: REM The B-52s The Cars Devo (Whip It!) Elvis Costello Graham Parker Joe Jackson The Clash Warren Zevon Darryl Rhoades Jules and the Polar Bears Geez, and so many more. It was a rich time and place, musically. THANKS again for the listen. Glad you liked it! Ron
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Nice pop - not quite power pop but close. Sort of a The Cars song without the quirky bits.
The hand claps are pretty good.
I've found that blending in a couple of tracks of real hand claps makes a big difference...usually four machine tracks and two real ones - some REALLY small delay between each of the machine ones also humanizes a bit more - hard work though.
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rayc stole my line - nice pop. Your lead singer reminds me a bit of Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze. Nice production, nothing heavy but fun listen. You've got the knack for nice pop productions!
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rayc stole my line - nice pop. Your lead singer reminds me a bit of Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze. Nice production, nothing heavy but fun listen. You've got the knack for nice pop productions! I love both Squeeze voices...I have most of their albums. I was also lucky enough to see the band in a pub about 5 miles from my then home on their 1st Australian tour. Late in 79.
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REM - didn't see them as they were "too popular" by the time they toured here. I was such a droob.
The B-52s - saw them - excellent.
The Cars - would love to have - I was hooked by their new wave Buddy Hollyness.
Devo (Whip It!) yep, the Coal Mine tour.
Elvis Costello - 1st tour and three or four after - including the Rude 5 and the Imposters.
Graham Parker - a couple of times - one of the best gigs.
Joe Jackson - bought the 1st album but didn't see him as I wasn't fussed on the 2nd.
The Clash - missed them, bought the 1st four albums but I didn't go because it was 82 and they'd bored me with The Sandanista.
Warren Zevon - so cool but nope.
Darryl Rhoades -I'll have to look that one up.
Jules and the Polar Bears - ditto.
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Good stuff! It's brings to mind several types of styles and time periods, but is uniquely yours. Very, good. Like the mix and the overall sound is great. Brad Brad, so glad you like it! Thank you for the listen. Nice pop - not quite power pop but close. Sort of a The Cars song without the quirky bits. The hand claps are pretty good. I've found that blending in a couple of tracks of real hand claps makes a big difference...usually four machine tracks and two real ones - some REALLY small delay between each of the machine ones also humanizes a bit more - hard work though. Ray, thanks! But what would The Cars be without the quirky bits? Ha! Thanks for the hand clap tip, I'll try that next time. It was the last thing I recorded, and I probably rushed it a bit. Thanks as well for sharing your reflections on my artist list. It strikes me as an important era musically, and not just because I was in the middle of it. rayc stole my line - nice pop. Your lead singer reminds me a bit of Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze. Nice production, nothing heavy but fun listen. You've got the knack for nice pop productions! David, glad you liked it! Geez, I left Squeeze off my list! Saw Jools Holland era Squeeze a couple of times and have all their music. Amazing band with amazing songs. Glenn has one of the purest voices ever and loved the way he and Chris Difford would harmonize in octaves. But I like my vocalist's voice a little more. He's amazing. Thanks for listening and the compliments!
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Ron,
Great music! Love the sound you are getting. Agree with all the other references - this is quite the pop mashup. Excellent lyrics, vocals and production.
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Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
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Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
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