I've already created a finished MIDI and Audio tracks arrangements, and I want to add a lead guitar part based on the chord charts I have. I know I've done it before, but it was almost 10 yrs ago. Can anyone send me a link to that tutorial in ver. 2023.
Also, IN those tracks I want to see if I can recreate JUST the piano part just as I recorded it (albeit it sounds like the grace of Frankenstein played it), but something that sounds more realistic and graceful. So, I'm not looking for anything in the Style library. I've never seen this kind of exact feature, so I'm not sure if it even exist. Thanks Much, King Conga
Didn't address your 2nd question, which is, to my knowledge, not possible with BiaB. You CAN do manipulations of RTs with Melodyne, for example, but that's not the same. Think RT improvisation off of human-made tracks is the next frontier for AI and BiaB. Scary stuff, but thrilling.
DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One ASUS I9-12900K DAW, 32 GB RAM Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
Since I play guitar I will often just record my own tracks but there have been times where, for whatever reason...... couldn't get the right groove, wasn't in the mood to play, or just plain lazy...... I decided to let BB do the tracks.
The problem was that for a solo, there has to be a certain groove or feel to it that builds properly and quite often BB doesn't read my mind and throws out some wonky stuff right in the middle if the solo that just ruins it. So.... I understand there is now partial track regeneration capabilities so there's that, but I have never used it. There's also using Melodyne to simply fix an errant note or two, but the method I've used on a few occasions is to simply let BB generate a number of instances of the same track. Since it almost never duplicates what it did previously, it's a safe bet that all the tracks will be different in some way or another. By moving those tracks into a DAW and using volume envelopes, one can easily comp the tracks to get a more perfect, or at least acceptable, lead guitar track. The one example I can think of is where I used 5 generations of the same track to get a very workable solo. A piece from here, the next section from there, a snippit from that one, and the ending comes from those two..... Waa Laa, a cool lead.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.
The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
In western movies, there's often the plot; There's a new sheriff in town. For BIAB, the new theme is; There's new math in town.
In older versions of BIAB, the riff feature in BIAB and RealBand would generate seven riffs and after a few regenerations, duplicates might appear. In other words, riffs had a fairly low unique number of generations. As Herb (Guitarhacker) notes above, this is usually enough to get a solid and unique solo. The method he references to generate 3-5 tracks of the same soloist instrument and comping riffs from each is also a very good method to capture a quality performance.
But today's BIAB can generate riffs that blow by the limitations of manually making your own off the charts. Partial regeneration increased riff capability up to 40 and BIAB now has 24 tracks to generate a soloist instrument multiple times on multiple tracks for manual comping.
However, RealTrack Medley Maker, an old feature, has been upgraded from working on the original seven Legacy Tracks to include the 16 Utility Tracks so all 24 tracks can now access this feature. There's an notify message for the Audio Track and DrumsTrack that a RealTrack must be loaded rather than pre-recorded audio or RealDrums. It's a RealTracks feature so Medley Maker applies to all of the 24 Tracks that have a RealTrack assigned.
RealTrack Medley Maker is marketed for two applications, Thickening (using the same instrument multiple times on the same track) or create a Medley of different RealTrack instruments to play simultaneously or consecutively as programed. But for music generation, there are hacks to generate very complex and detailed arrangements that are edited and arranged by BIAB.
The math for using the full compliment of 24 channels to use all of the Medley Maker sub-tracks and have BIAB create a soloist, BIAB would access and generate these sub-track RealTracks 264 times in a single generation that could have volume auto-leveling and panning. The RealTrack Medley Maker has 8 pre-sets that can be set to play a Medley either consequently or simultaneously.
Using multiple Mixer Channels with different variations of RealTrack instruments, applying Partial regeneration and then arranging these tracks into a single, unique stereo or mono soloist Artist Performance Track would be a huge manual undertaking that would require hours to duplicate what a single render in BIAB would produce.
OK, this is the 1st chance I've had to work on this since making these posts. I just took a long break cuz I was really tired of this project. Anyhoo, I'll go ahead and embarrass myself and admit I have a bit of a thick skull. I've tried several ways of getting the chords from the 62-bar section I want the guitar lead to follow INTO BIAB. GEEZ! It was hard enough getting them OUT of Studio One. What's making it complicated is the fact that I'm not using just 1-2 chords/bar, but almost 1 per beat in the first 2 bars of the phrase. I tried importing the MIDI section from the orig into BIAB, that wasn't even close. I was trying to use the C7 Chord button (the 4th button under Tools) since that seemed to offer the option for inserting chords per beat. However, that's really tedious as well, and doesn't seem to work. It's just a 4 bar phrase that repeats itself about 12Xs, the rest of the tune is more conventional. Any suggestions? I'll be glad to send you whatever files you think would help, but I wasn't sure which you would ask for. Just let me know. KC
Sometimes the easiest way is just to type the chords into the song. It doesn't usually take that long, while the playing about trying to get chord symbols out-of/into software can be frustrating. Using the "K" shortcut can speed things along; copy and paste ditto. (details of both, p95 of the 2024 manual).
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .
@Gordon makes a good point. Typing in the chords is probably quicker than trying to import them. And the shortcuts should help speed it up. No need to overthink it - give the typing method a try and see how it works out for you!
OK! You win. I tried importing an audio file using ACW. Why is it, with everything in life, theory always works better than real life. Anyhoo, the main reason I tried that instead of writing the chords in was when I tried that first, due to the fact that many of the chords fall on offbeats, and only last 1/2 beats, and the s'ware simply wouldn't play nice with that factor. I know there's several ways to get this done, so considering that fact, can you pls suggest the easiest BIAB method where I can write the chords in, even if it's the actual note events, then copy that 4-bar phrase about 12X's, then the rest is pretty standard fare. Tnx, KC
OK. I'm moving, but it's a SLOW, bumpy ride. I'm using the Pno Roll view inserting MIDI events. 1 of my issues is I can't figure out how to create an accidental (Bb - B). The other issue is my Pno is on Ch. 2, but the stinking BIAB keeps switching back to Ch. 1 on playback. How do I keep that from changing. I can't believe I have to go thru all of this, just to generate the gtr lead.
I HATE THIS STINKING PROGRAM! Problem #1.) I DON'T want BIAB to play ANY style, and I can't figure out how to make it SHUTUP and play MY audio file. ACW doesn't sync up correctly. 2.) MIDI Piano Roll doesn't allow me to create an accidental, and the tutorial doesn't cover that. NONE of the features used for entering chords (EXCEPT MAYBE the piano roll) comes even close to what I need.
1) Click inside style label area (Pop-up menu appears) 2) Remove check mark beside "Style is enabled" by clicking on the words. (This toggles between enabled and disabled). 3) When a style is disabled there is a "x" placed in front of the style label.
Thanks Jim. Sorry I flew off the handle. I just get REALLY frustrated sometimes when I just want to get something simple accomplished, and for the life of me, I can't do ANYTHING creative bcuz the technology doesn't cooperate. I'm SOO frustrated with BIAB, as a matter of fact, I have to move on to another project so I can at least be productive. For instance, I can't believe even PG Support can't even tell me how to insert an accidental into my score. I asked for a solution in P.R. view, but they said that was impossible. OK! So WHERE? And they hung up? KC
I HATE THIS STINKING PROGRAM! Problem #1.) I DON'T want BIAB to play ANY style, and I can't figure out how to make it SHUTUP and play MY audio file. ACW doesn't sync up correctly. 2.) MIDI Piano Roll doesn't allow me to create an accidental, and the tutorial doesn't cover that. NONE of the features used for entering chords (EXCEPT MAYBE the piano roll) comes even close to what I need.
You may find Realband much better of a fit for how you work .. I sure did.
It has a much more intuitive workflow for me .. to just generate a new section using whatever RealTrack instead of Styles, etc. BiaB has its benefits, but for my workflow and expectations on how things should work, RB is much more convenient. It came with your BiaB purchase, so don't throw the baby out with the bath water (so to speak), it may be worth a try It is much more like a familiar DAW interface than BiaB is.It does *most of what BiaB does, and some things better
Last edited by rharv; 02/22/2405:27 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
I believe you need to be in the Notation window to write accidentals. BiaB also has "intelligent accidentals" that are context sensitive to the chord names.
Press F1 to open the Help window, select the "Search" tab and the top three choices discuss accidentals and the Notation window.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
Playable RealTracks Set 4
RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you over the phone. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday, and 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST Saturday. We are closed Sunday. You can also send us your questions via email.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you on our Live Chat or by email. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday; 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST (GMT -8) Saturday; Closed Sunday.
I've tried several ways of getting the chords from the 62-bar section I want the guitar lead to follow INTO BIAB. GEEZ! It was hard enough getting them OUT of Studio One. What's making it complicated is the fact that I'm not using just 1-2 chords/bar, but almost 1 per beat in the first 2 bars of the phrase. I tried importing the MIDI section from the orig into BIAB, that wasn't even close. I was trying to use the C7 Chord button (the 4th button under Tools) since that seemed to offer the option for inserting chords per beat. However, that's really tedious as well, and doesn't seem to work. It's just a 4 bar phrase that repeats itself about 12Xs, the rest of the tune is more conventional. Any suggestions? I'll be glad to send you whatever files you think would help, but I wasn't sure which you would ask for. Just let me know. 
Anyhoo, the main reason I tried that instead of writing the chords in was when I tried that first, due to the fact that many of the chords fall on offbeats, and only last 1/2 beats, and the s'ware simply wouldn't play nice with that factor. I know there's several ways to get this done, so considering that fact, can you pls suggest the easiest BIAB method where I can write the chords in, even if it's the actual note events, then copy that 4-bar phrase about 12X's, then the rest is pretty standard fare.
I'm SOO frustrated with BIAB, as a matter of fact, I have to move on to another project so I can at least be productive. For instance, I can't believe even PG Support can't even tell me how to insert an accidental into my score. I asked for a solution in P.R. view, but they said that was impossible. OK! So WHERE? And they hung up? 
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean