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The whole world ain't all AABA... #809405 05/05/24 01:51 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: May 2020 Posts: 43 R RiverCityKen OP Enthusiast
OP RiverCityKen Enthusiast R Joined: May 2020 Posts: 43	I used BIAB during early COVID, but haven't for the past 2+ years, so of course I forgot everything. I just entered an 86-bar song that I want to go through only ONCE. (On the line after the title, I entered "1 - 86 - 1" in the appropriate spaces.) However, BIAB keeps playing the song with repeats and alternate endings, as if it were an AABA form. It isn't an AABA form; it's more like ABABBA. How can I make the program simply play the song as entered, with no repeats or other modifications? Thank you, Forgetful Ken

Re: The whole world ain't all AABA... RiverCityKen #809409 05/05/24 02:39 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,591 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,591 Australia	Hi Ken, If you have Start = 1, bars = 86 and choruses = 1... that's telling BIAB that you want a song that starts at bar 1 and at bar 86, BIAB will add it's own 2-bar ending. The number of choruses indicates that you want BIAB to play through the whole song just one time. There is another setting called "Loop" that sounds like it might be set. I access this feature via the standard view. Make sure the "Never loop entire song" is active. If you are in full-screen view, CTRL+T will toggle you between full-screen and standard views. --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2026 audios on Soundcloud

Re: The whole world ain't all AABA... RiverCityKen #809449 05/06/24 06:22 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,874 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker Veteran
Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,874 Middlesex, NC	So, I found out that if you UNFOLD to one chorus, it's much, much easier to get it to do exactly what you want it to do. If you leave it in it's default mode (folded with repeats) it's going to be a pain to work with. EDIT>SONG FORM> UNFOLD and then simply edit it to do what you want.... one linear form....start to finish with no repeats. Being formally trained.... I tried to use the musical road signs but quickly realized the unfolded form was so much easier. In addition, you can start anywhere in the song and know exactly where you are at any point. No more guessing is this the second or third verse? You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: The whole world ain't all AABA... RiverCityKen #809520 05/06/24 10:16 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,574 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,574 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	I think we need more specifics on what you are hearing to know which of the above is the right remedy. In theory you did it right, using 1 86 1, so I also wonder if you just have it set to loop. But tell us more. BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: The whole world ain't all AABA... RiverCityKen #809533 05/07/24 01:30 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,097 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,097 Melbourne, Australia	From what I can tell, this is not an Unfold Song related issue as discussed elsewhere here. There is only one chorus (single play through the entire song). Unfolding this shouldn't make any difference. In fact if you try to Unfold, you'll get this message: BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: The whole world ain't all AABA... RiverCityKen #809557 05/07/24 06:29 AM Beginners Forum
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OP RiverCityKen Enthusiast R Joined: May 2020 Posts: 43	Thank you Noel96, Guitarhacker, Matt Finley, and Audio Track. First I checked all settings suggested, and everything seemed to be okay. So then I played it through (at triple speed), AND THE SONG JUST PLAYED THROUGH ONCE!. So I'm wondering if I simply had to re-start the program for my form changes to take effect? Anyway, this problem seems to be resolved. Another question: Is there a way to defeat the extra two bars that automatically get added to the ending? Again, thanks, guys!

Re: The whole world ain't all AABA... RiverCityKen #809558 05/07/24 06:33 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,097 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,097 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by RiverCityKen ... Another question: Is there a way to defeat the extra two bars that automatically get added to the ending? Again, thanks, guys! In Song Settings ( <Ctrl>N ), uncheck this value: BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: The whole world ain't all AABA... RiverCityKen #809572 05/07/24 10:06 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,574 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,574 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Very good. In cases like these, in the absence of anything that explains it better, I just blame sunspots. 😎 BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

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