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As an XproMegaAudiophileBonusplusUltraXtraStylesReal kind of guy I am again real mega extra ultra plus bamboozled plus by all the upgrade jargon - again. What's the difference between an Xpro Style, an Xtra style, a bonus pack style - to be honest I don't care. I would rather play a piano. All I know is I have Ultrapack and don't need the educational stuff. The BIAB example of "what kind of add ons do you have" does not help. To begin with, when I hit "what add ons do you have?" I am never sure if it referring to my current version or if it is referrring to the new version I have yet to download. PG does not make this clear. There is an explanation of this screen, on the website, in some cubby hole, when I can rarely find it. It's not actually the correct screen - my one in BIAB 2025/6 is complately different. Not ony is it a different layout but it is actually WRONG. When it claims "as you can see". Well maybe you can see, if you work for BIAB. Here is the "explanatory" image: It states that "in the screenshot you can see that XPro Styles PAK 8 and Xtra Styles PAK 19 are installed" NO IT DOESN'T. It shows that "Xtra styles 16, 17 and 20 and Xpro style pak 9" are "found". What is the difference again between Xtra and Xpro are they in the bonus pack, or the ......aargh! Where is the 11% of Xrta styles or the 25% of Xpro styles i am seeking?
SHHHHHHHHHEEEEHSHHHHH! PG what a MESSS. What do your sales department think of all this?? How may customers wil miss buying something they want? https://1drv.ms/i/c/4aebef484af7e02e/IQBL8VmIlPdISZ4ZIOerA4xkAZKdnJg1pqoF-74_Neug_ZM?e=I9a1b3Type in "What add ons do I have" into Help and you get kicked out of the website to "powered by google", which does not answer the question. Last year I tried again to ugrade everything - not even sure what "everything" means in this weird meta verse language - was there not an "everything Pak" too which did not have everything? All I want is to cover all the bases, for styles and realtracks. PG: A New customer could never hack this, you must loose so many sales. Here is a pic: [img] https://1drv.ms/i/c/4aebef484af7e02e/IQBfg4JBKUsXQ6npL_ymZhiJAZp9D1xE5C1D5xsUkywqL9I?e=3jXiY5[/img] I say all this because PG needs to hear its simply too confusing. I am really looking forward to the revamp. I will upgrade, but will other's especially new customers and "dippers in", understand all this. of course not. Go find someone who is not familiar with this process of upgrading. Put them in front of a machine with no conaching. Sit your head sales manager down in front of them and let them watch what happens (without helping at all). YOU need to address this or loose megaxtraproplus money. It's been like this for years and PG LOOSES
Get out of your bubbleZ
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OOH. Google told me to go to styles picker and select the "Add ons" button to se what style psacks I have. But this appears to have vanished in 2025.
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Yes, it's very confusing. Here's what I understand. If you presently have UltraPAK or higher, then you probably want the PlusPAK which adds just the new stuff. If you have lower than UltraPAK, then I think you need either a full upgrade or just the program update (no additional content). Xpro packs are compatible with the "Pro" (i.e., minimal) version. Xtra packs need the UltraPAK. If you have the Audiophile edition, then I think you can use either the "physical" that I presume includes everything on the PlusPAK which is only the new stuff. Incidentally if you haven't yet, on the Upgrades page they have a matrix of the options and a mouse-hover the version boxes gives extra details. It helps. https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htmPGM are not the only company where I've walked away because of the confusion over what I actually need.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
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Well then I appear to have made a mistake Greg.
I have just bought BIAB 2026/7, All Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows - XSP21-I, 2026 Bonus 49-PAK for Windows - 49PAK2026-I
I have decades with this app.
Have I confused Ultrapak plus with PlusPak. Is this the final question in who wants to be a millionaire?
Have I overspent? Have I got all the real tracks and styles? Have I purchased I have no clue !
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I think so. I presume you paid the $179 instead of the $99. The XtraStyles and 49-Pak are extra anyway.
The UltraPAK+ includes the songs and lessons pack. You could try asking PGM if they'll change what you have and refund the difference. They're usually pretty good on things like that and as you say, it far from clear, so probably they _should_ be good on things like that.
Gordon.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
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I have found a magic button in the StylePicker. It's called Addons. It says I am missing styles 18, 19 and 20. So this means even though I have purchased All Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows - XSP21. "All extra Styles" must NOT actually mean ALL extra styles. ALL is not ALL, Everything is not Everything.
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ZeroZero - The Xtra styles are designed to work with the UltraPAK (or Audiophile PAK), since they have all the previous styles. The XPro PAK is designed to provide additional styles to those that purchased the low-end PRO PAK version, as the XPro styles only use RealTracks/RealDrums that you get with the BIAB PRO version. Of course, since the UltraPAK contains all the RT's/RD's found in the PRO version, it's nice to have those extra styles as well. I think one of the confusing things here with regards to the XPro and Xtra styles PAK is the word " ALL". It really just means ALL the styles contained in Xtra PAK 20 or 21, or ALL the styes contained in XPro PAK 9 or 10. It doesn't mean "ALL" the XPro or Xtra styles PAKs ever released. This page describes the Xtra styles PAKs released to date. You can also click on the XPro tab to see those. Yes, it is confusing, but to me is just extra content to make music creation easier. You don't really need any of those PAKs, as all they are just nice groupings of existing RealTracks/RealDrums that make sense musically in different genres. You could easily create your own by creating a new style, adding the RTs/RDs and saving it. But PGMusic has done all the work here to figure out which ones work together musically, so you can go create music, rather than work on creating the tools to create that music.
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