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I'd like to set a passage of MIDI notes to creshendo. Is there a way to this besides clicking on each note and setting the velocites?
Like fade-in or out for audio. It'd be cool if you could highlight a passage of MIDI, set a start and end velocity, and PT set the velocities automatically.
I have searched for this but not luck.
- Bud
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CC11 -- Expression, was designed for just that purpose.
Acts like a Volume Fader that is logarithmic instead of linear in function.
If CC7 is analagous to the Master Fader on a mixer, CC11 is analagous to one of the separate Channel Faders on a mixer. Therefore, if CC7, the overall Volume, is set to 90, then using CC11 from 0 - 127 would cover the volume area UNDER the "master" CC7 of 90.
You can use the PianoRoll editor to select and insert a CC11 event that covers any range of notes in two mouseclicks.
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- Bud
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You are most welcome -- and it is spelled, crescendo!
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LOl! I shoulda put "get gradually louder"!
- Bud
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An undoubtedly inferior way of doing this (although I can attest that it works) is to use the 'Record Mixer Moves Only' command, and move the slider manually during recording.
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For sure. I've never used the feature much but plan to. Just getting into the guts of MIDI after many years of just using Band in a Box for practice. Fascinating stuff. Hooked up my keyboard and Powertracks and it's like a whole new world. Unlimited creativity without really knowing how to play!
It would be nice though if you could just highlight a section and enter the start and end velocities, but I'll get er done.
- Bud
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It would be nice though if you could just highlight a section and enter the start and end velocities, but I'll get er done.
You can do exactly that in the PianoRoll view, using the mouse to draw in Velocities across any range of notes.
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One of features pre-dating the Piano Roll availability, which can achieve smooth crescendos, is the command Edit > Fill.
Last edited by LynB; 04/09/10 03:37 AM.
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Thanks. I'd have never found it cause I never use the piano roll. Will try it out.
- Bud
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I think you'll have to pay close attention the the velocity of the very next note just after your crescendo. A crescendo will often end louder that the musical passage that directly follows it. Examlpe; if you are going to use an existing section of midi notes to create the crescendo, (or you can "control / shift / mouse click" in a row of cymbal notes at your default velocity setting).
Set the duration to, say, 32nd notes.
Set the channel to 10 (assuming your working on drums) or the channel your instrument is on.
Set the View/Edit to Velocity.
Hold Control and Shift down and mouse click it a row of cymbal notes (C#4 on the Keyboard Pitch Panel to the left) as close together as you can get 'em. Do this on a blank bar/measure for practice. You can copy/paste/merge/replace later.
Play it to here it. No crescendo.
Now go to the bottom Graphic Event Panel and draw a diagonal line from low left to high right with you mouse button held down.
Voila' a crescendo (that needs some personal practice and tweeking to fix it right?) That's what Edit / Undo is for.
Now fix the hanging notes after the crescendo ( if you have some) and go back and tweek your crescendo by raising and lowering velocities and moving the notes a little left and a little right. Most cymbal roll crescendos ar so fast that a sloppy mouse click entery is good enough for sounding somewhat natural.
A trick I learned is to make the velocity draw in a "Z" shape.
Say I've got 32 cymbal hits in a bar. A long crescendo.
Starting from the left I'll draw from a low 10 velocity to half way across the bar up to about a 75 and let go of the mouse. Then I'll start again at half way through the bar and draw from a 30 on up to a 127 to the end of the bar.
Now the notes that follow the crescendo "might" maintain the velocity of the last crescendo note. So, zoom in really big and close to make it easier to tweek and bring the velocity of the very next note to approximately where it was before or refer to the velocities of notes prior to the crescendo.
Here's a copy paste from part of the HELP section;
"Graphic Event Panel
Graphically display and edit non-note MIDI events. This panel only shows MIDI events specified in the Chan, View/Edit, and Controller Type controls.
Except for Velocity data, the view is drawn staircased. Blue lines extend between events. This makes it easy to see the persistent effect of events, if they occur to the left of your current viewing location.
Zero-value events are drawn as small hollow squares, to make them easy to identify.
With events such as Pitch Bend, or controllers like Modulation and Sustain, it is important to take care to end a "gesture" with a zero-value event. Otherwise, subsequent notes will be affected, with an unwanted "hanging" permanent Pitch Bend, permanent Vibrato, or Sustain Pedal locked down. If you notice this, just move the mouse cursor where the gesture should have ended, and click-in a single zero-value event.
This is fun Huh!
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
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It is indeed and you are all most excellent folks to take time to explain it all. It was a drum-fill that got me looking at how to do this.
Imagine if the old masters like Mozart and Beethoven had had this stuff.
- Bud
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So, did you try my example with a "Z" shape on a cymbal crescendo?
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
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