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Could you please tell me the program you use so I can check into it, Thanks
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It really depends on what you want to accomplish.
A number of people are using Synth V which is essentially a VST that allows you to play a part on your keyboard and add the lyrics. It uses one or more of the available voice databases and produces a fairly good vocal track. It's completely editable. You can also give it a vocal stem and it will extract not only the melody and phrasing but it does a decent job with the lyrics which you can edit easily. You buy Synth V from the company that makes it as well as the voice databases and you have them available without a subscription.
These that follow are all subscription based AI. You can subscribe monthly to try them out or yearly if you are planning on doing a fair amount of music with them.
Another option is Suno. It also has the ability to construct a song with vocal from your lyrics and a prompt describing the style and other details. I also believe it can build a vocal track using an audio stem that you provide. Version 5.5 is the most recent one and simply put, it is amazing with what it can do and the absolute realism of the music and vocals.
Another good option for just the vocals is Audimee. It's designed at this point to just do vocals. And it does them well. Input a stem and choose from the dozens of voices available. This is, in my opinion, one of the best AI generated vocal options available. The quality and character of the voices is simply amazing. It can work from an extracted stem or you can sing a part and audimee will convert it to one of it's singers. Obviously, the better the quality of the stem you can give it, the better the results. Also note: I have given it a complete vocal stem and it did most, about 90% of the track really nicely. However, in a few of the higher parts, it didn't do as well and worked out with weird notes. The solution was to cut that particular part into a small clip that only contained the part it messed up and send just that clip back through the AI. Since its only dealing with a small clip, it will often process the part perfectly.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth.
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 04/19/26 06:01 AM.
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Hi Herb!
I don’t use any AI vocals, but that is a really good summary of the options for those of us that don’t know much about the topic. Thanks!
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I use ACE Studio. though not cheap for a permanent license (they do have a rent to own plan, also), it does what I need in the box (my computer) rather than online. Like most Asian companies that do this thing, it has yet to generate a voice that sounds convincing in American English but I don't care. I use it for demos only and the lack of a convincing voice highlights this fact. They just released v.2 which adds latin and choral voices along with instruments.
The reason I went with ACE is that I can give it a MusicXML file from a notation app such as Finale and the voices can 'sing' the notes and words from the page. For my work, this is huge and well worth the money.
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I use Synthesizer V Studio 2 Pro (which Herb referred to as Synth V above) from Dreamtonics ( https://dreamtonics.com/synthesizerv/). - the vocal tracks it generates can be indistinguishable from actual recorded vocal tracks - they are NOT using stolen vocals like Suno and other AI services, instead, they are more like the BIAB model of paying artists to perform and then licensing those performances - they offer tons of voices but it can get rather expensive! - to generate a vocal track you can play it on your MIDI keyboard, "draw" the notes directly using the MIDI editor, import a MIDI melody or import a recorded vocal track with melody, timing and lyrics detected automatically (but imperfectly, so you'll need to do a fair amount of cleanup) - I am very happy with all of their voices that are American English but not at all interested in those with an Asian accent as they don't work for my style pf music - for a male American English type of voice I like Liam a lot - for a female American English type of voice I like Etta a lot - male voices I have are Liam, Hayden, Kevin and Asterian - female voices I have are Etta, Felicia, Natalie, and Solaria (I also have Mai who has an accent but she was free so...) I have thus far only used this tool for generating harmony parts to my vocals but I could see this being super helpful for generating high-quality demos and even for releasing as finished works if you don't plan to sing your songs yourself.
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Another Synthesizer V (short Synth V) user here.
Synth V isn't an AI like Suno, which means you can't just give it a command/prompt and it'll do the rest.
Instead, you have to edit the notes, tempo, and lyrics (down to the syllable level), in other words, the entire prosody, in one way or another.
It can be tedious at times, but you have complete control over the result.
If you'd like to hear some examples: On my YouTube channel, all the songs from “Can't Get To The Other Side” and older are done exclusively with Synth V.
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For high-quality AI vocals, the absolute industry standard right now is Synthesizer V by Dreamtonics, which sounds incredibly human and handles realistic inflections perfectly. Another massively popular option specifically for changing or cloning existing vocal tracks is ACE Studio or web-based platforms like Kits.ai.
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It really depends on what you're trying to do.
SynthV is the best program for synthetic vocals from scratch. You can either load a vocal in and have it convert it into notes and phonemes, play it in from a keyboard, load a MIDI file, or - most commonly - enter in notes using piano roll notation. You can hear lots of examples of it online and on this forum. It's the tool I use.
ACE Studio is similar to SynthV, and a bit easier to use than SynthV. But I don't think the vocals are nearly as good. I haven't heard it used much here.
Suno has the most realistic vocals, but intentionally doesn't have the ability to enter in notes. You can give it a vocal guide track, only lyrics, or even nothing at all. The main issue with Suno (other than how they acquired their training data) is that you can only get full songs from it. So if you want only the vocal track, you'll have to use one of Suno's tools (or one like in BiaB) to extract the vocal from the song. This can lead to some artifacts.
There are other programs that will do only voice substitution/cloning, but I don't think that's what you're asking about.
Another option would be to use SynthV or ACE Studio to generate the vocal, and something like Suno or Audiomee to transform the vocal.
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I really REALLY don't mean to make anyone mad and everyone has a right to do their own thing but . . . I would beg you not to use AI. Find a friend who sings, or go on your local Craigslist or Fivrr and pay a working musician to sing / play what you need. I can't stress enough how much I hate what AI is doing. First, it's all theft second it's killing the planet. I really could go on for days on the issues with using AI but that should be it's own thread.
Again, try and find someone willing to work with you to accomplish the goals. "Community" is a big part of what music is about not technology.
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I really REALLY don't mean to make anyone mad and everyone has a right to do their own thing but . . . I would beg you not to use AI. Find a friend who sings, or go on your local Craigslist or Fivrr and pay a working musician to sing / play what you need. I can't stress enough how much I hate what AI is doing. First, it's all theft second it's killing the planet. I really could go on for days on the issues with using AI but that should be it's own thread.
Again, try and find someone willing to work with you to accomplish the goals. "Community" is a big part of what music is about not technology. I don't mean to sound mean but if you are on the BIAB forum lamenting about folks not using a friend or working musician to sing their vocals I have to ask why are you using BIAB instead of using those friends or working musicians for your own instrument tracks? And, to your valid point about how AI has stolen the source material to train on, I'd just add that, like the musicians who record BIAB RealTracks, the singers whose voices we can use in tools like Synthesizer V are paid for their time and effort. I own Synthesizer V but I've not used it in any of my final tracks as I kinda like my own voice!  But I do like it for songwriting and I might just use it for harmony vocals in some of my songs. I don't play drums or bass so BIAB or some other sample library always provides those parts for me. And sometimes I even use BIAB instruments like guitars that I can play because it is quicker and usually better! But there is no stopping AI. That train has already left the station. Toothpaste out of the tube. Etc. The best thing we can do, IMHO, is stay abreast of what is happening and learn to use it for good!
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In my imperfect worldview, musicians should use whatever real/synth/AI vocals they are comfortable with.
That being said, it does sadden me when musicians who CAN sing post AI vocals. But that's a personal weakness on my part. I mean, I can play every instrument on the songs I post (except for the strings), but I use BiaB because it's FAST. So I get it.
HOWEVER, anyone who thinks a Synth V or Suno vocal is indistinguishable from a "real" vocal is kidding themselves. Well, except for the tuned country vocals that are squirting out of Nashville these days. Those sound EXACTLY like a Synth V or Suno vocal.
At least to my ears.
Carry on...
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I can't stress enough how much I hate what AI is doing. First, it's all theft second it's killing the planet. You're conflating this with generative AI like Suno, which was trained on music without either compensating the musicians or even giving them the choice to opt-out. That's not the case for something like SynthV, which hires singers and runs locally. It's likely not the case with ACE Studio, which also pays musicians, although it doesn't run locally. That said, your likely to get the best results using an actual singer. SynthV isn't going to fool a discerning ear, and ACE Studio even less. Suno is - to my ear - just a bit too perfect and over-produced. That's especially true for country vocals. I'm not trying to fool anyone with SynthV vocals. I treat it as a tool to demo my songs. A more ideal situation would be to use something like SynthV to work out a song, and create a guide track for a singer. But getting the right singer on Fivver or somewhere similar can be problematic, too. There have been posts on the forum about that as well. Anyway, there's a big difference between different AI voices,and lumping them together as of they were all the same isn't really fair.
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I can't stress enough how much I hate what AI is doing. First, it's all theft second it's killing the planet. You're conflating this with generative AI like Suno, which was trained on music without either compensating the musicians or even giving them the choice to opt-out. That's not the case for something like SynthV, which hires singers and runs locally. It's likely not the case with ACE Studio, which also pays musicians, although it doesn't run locally. That said, your likely to get the best results using an actual singer. SynthV isn't going to fool a discerning ear, and ACE Studio even less. Suno is - to my ear - just a bit too perfect and over-produced. That's especially true for country vocals. I'm not trying to fool anyone with SynthV vocals. I treat it as a tool to demo my songs. A more ideal situation would be to use something like SynthV to work out a song, and create a guide track for a singer. But getting the right singer on Fivver or somewhere similar can be problematic, too. There have been posts on the forum about that as well. Anyway, there's a big difference between different AI voices,and lumping them together as of they were all the same isn't really fair. I run ACE Studio offline, entirely ‘in the box’ on my Mac Studio Ultra. Rendering files takes a bit of time but it works great. I know that there are ways to run it over the internet but I never have.
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I really REALLY don't mean to make anyone mad and everyone has a right to do their own thing but . . . I would beg you not to use AI. Find a friend who sings, or go on your local Craigslist or Fivrr and pay a working musician to sing / play what you need. I can't stress enough how much I hate what AI is doing. First, it's all theft second it's killing the planet. I really could go on for days on the issues with using AI but that should be it's own thread.
Again, try and find someone willing to work with you to accomplish the goals. "Community" is a big part of what music is about not technology. Lets clarify a few things. There are several kinds of AI. Generative and cover are the two main kinds in my opinion. Suno and others like it can kinda fall into both categories. There is generative AI, where you simply write a prompt, a sentence or two and it will generate a complete song from scratch using it's learned experience. You can call that theft but it's essentially the same as you writing a song and relying on your cumulative musical experience to come up with what you imagine to be an "original" song. On the other hand, you can also upload a demo that you have recorded in your studio and ask it to use that as the reference and simple do a cover where it adds much better quality tracks and vocals and by knowing how to write a prompt to guide it, you can have a major influence of the final production. For example, do you want it slower, faster, acoustic, electric, soft, hard, male singer, female singer, duet between both, guitar solo, piano solo, fiddle fills, what other instruments do you want, and more. If I use any kind of audio file/track with a vocal melody, or if I use Synth V to "flesh out" a vocal melody, and then import that audio into AI such as Audimee, that is not stealing, and I don't see how it's killing the planet. To me it's using a tool that has recently been developed and is being refined daily. The voices that are being used as models in Audimee are all licensed and I'm sure the artists who gave their permission are getting, or were compensated for the use of their voice. I pay a monthly subscription for the rights to use those voices, in the same way I would have to pay someone from Fivr or any other vocal singer for hire. Nothing is being stolen and it is not the generative AI that you seem to think it is. Since the chance that anything I write would be placed with an artist where I could recoup my investment in a singer that is going to cost anywhere from $100 on the low end to multiple hundreds on the high end, I can't justify running to Fivr and hiring a real singer every time I have a demo that needs a singer. AI has been a great, affordable, and viable option for my songs.
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My musical journey has led me down many different roads to produce top notch demos of songs that I've written. Not being a professional musician or singer there are massive limitations to being able to produce competitive demos. As Herb mentioned spending several hundred dollars to produce one demo is out of the question, let alone for hundred of compositions. So what are we to do? Forget about recording? Produce low level inadequate demos and songs? No, there are tools out there available to all of us at very minimal costs. BiaB is one of them. It has paid for itself time and time again. Synthesizer V has done the same for me...as well as Suno. The money I have put out for them is about the cost of three or four pro quality studio demos. And I've recorded over 800 original compositions using these TOOLS.
Now I've played in bands, written songs and recorded for the last 50 years, but time has stolen my voice from me, so my choices are to stop recording or find someone or something else to help me do what I love doing. I understand the frightening and challenging aspects of AI but also see its potential. With AI...me...the fledgling, wanna be songwriter can now produce near radio quality songs by using software based and AI programs to "cover" my music. I simply present my rough, homemade recording to the AI engine and it gives me a professional quality demo of my song. And as for me...that's what I want...and need. And though I wish I could have done that myself...not possible. But fortunately for me we live in a time when that's possible. Just wish it had shown up 30 years ago because now you can clone your own voice (though I've never really enjoyed the sound of my own voice). AI is like a hammer which can be used as a terrific tool for building things but it can be a terrible weapon as well. I'm trying to build some good stuff with it!
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Another exciting new addition is the amazing new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. View the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to transcribe an entire track or transcribe specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Mac® to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!
Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.
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