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I only recently discovered that for a while, Vivaldi's music was lost to antiquity. It was in 1926 that an archivist found a massive cache of Vivaldi manuscripts in a Piedmont monastery. Alberto Gentili, a professor of musicology at the University of Turin, became involved, and he spent years hunting down split segments of the collection until an archive of over 300 Vivaldi works was reunited.

This performance of "The Four Seasons: Winter" has to be seen to be believed.



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Quite amazing! A great listen, thanks for posting.

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As a general view I reckon I don't much like pan flutes, but I definitely make an exception in this case.
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Very impressive, indeed.


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This is literally unbelievable. This sort of thing shouldn't be encouraged.

Despite being outdoors, in a space that's terrible for recording, and with no microphones being set up, the audio is clear and balanced.

That's because what's being heard is a studio recording, not a live recording.

I've no doubt that the people in the video are the same as those in the studio recording. But the performance shown here?

Fake.


Also, Vivaldi's works weren't "lost to antiquity".

Rather, a large cache of previously lost music was found. But his most famous works (like "The Seasons") were never lost.


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While I agree with you that the audio would have been recorded in a studio, I disagree that this is "fake". I think a better word is "mimed". It's clear from watching the performers' physical movements that their street performance is identical to the audio that is available on Youtube. This indicates that it is a very well practised performance.

As the below information regarding songs in movies suggests, recording artists have a long, long history of miming their creations to bring an element of realism to a studio recording or, in this case, showcasing a studio quality recording of a spectacular live performance that passers-by were very impressed with. Maybe it is only me, but the fact that they are miming their own performance does not detract from the quality of the performance at all for me.

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This entire scene is fiction.

This is Raphaël Froissart's YouTube channel. He's the one responsible for the title:

He asks for the most difficult piece ever and SHOCKS everyone with his pan flute...🤯

Now, why are these people "shocked"? After all, Michel Tirabosco is a world-class player.

The answer is because the the video is intentionally set up to mislead people. Michel says to Raphaël:

"Can I play with you? I have my flute."

This is - at best - intended to mislead, to give the impression that he just happened to meet Raphael. Michel then says:

Vivaldi? Winter, you know?

He's trying to give the impression that he's selected "Winter" at random. And he's pretending that he's not Raphael knows the piece.

That's rubbish, because we know that they've already recorded it..

When the "mob of musicians" comes along, Raphael acts as if this is unexpected - even as if he doesn't even know who they are.

At 0:52, Michel saws "Wow", as if he's surprised by all these people who have suddenly appeared.

By this time, it's straining credulity that anyone would believe this wasn't fake.

But that's not the point. If they simply wanted to give the impression of a live performance, that's one thing.

That's not what they're doing here. They're intentionally misleading people - and that's what I object to.


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