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I was wondering if any one else has run into a problem that I have been experiencing. When I take a song from BB2010/v299, and export it to a midi file, I get multiple instances of the same note assigned to one note. When I play the midi song, this causes a momentary pause in the playing of the song while "all" the notes are tried to being played. If I go into the midi file and edit these notes (i.e. delete the "extra" notes) the song will play correctly. I have found that the number of "extra" notes assigned to one note can range from 3 to 33. I ran into this problem in previous versions of BB but just now joined the forum so I thought I'd throw this out to the experts and techies.
I am running windows vista with sp2, 4gb ram with a 2.8hz and 1tb hard drive.
Thanak you for any insight into this problem.
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Hi,
I haven't seen anything like that specifically. Does it happen for the BB generated tracks (Bass, Piano, etc.) or only tracks that you have recorded/entered (Soloist/Melody)?
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
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Hello Andrew,
It only seems to happen on the BB generated tracks. Specifically the Piano and Guitar tracks. I usually export to a midi file and then add the other tracks.
Michael
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Michael, welcome to the forum.
I haven't read about anything like that happening to anyone else. Could you try Opt, Return to Factory Settings and see if it makes any difference?
That's very helpful that you told us about your computer, and your description of the problem is also clear. Could you add info on your sound card, and what you have selected for MIDI Output in BIAB? Are you using a DXi?
Does this happen with one style, or any style?
Does the problem happen on all songs?
What program reads the MIDI file you create?
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Hello Matt,
Thanks for the welcome. I've tried everything that I could think of. Returning to factory settings, uninstalling the program and then re-installing it, trying it on a different computer and the results are always the same.
The sound card that I use is a Realtek HD Audio Card. The program that I am exporting to is Sonar. This happens with all styles that I have tried and with all songs.
Thanks for the response Matt. Hopefully somebody can figure this out. It does become very time consuming having to go bar by bar and deleting all the "extra" notes.
Michael
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Michael, in the MIDI driver dialog box, is DXi checked?
And what do you have selected as the MIDI Output device?
Just following a hunch: do you ever experience any stutters when playing music on that computer?
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Hello Michael,
Perhaps you could email a sample Band-in-a-Box song (.MGU or .SGU file) and the MIDI file created from it, to support @pgmusic.com. If you do this, please reference this forum thread.
Andrew
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Hello Andrew,
I will be happy to. Thank you for taking the time to look into this for me.
Michael
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Hello Matt,
DXi is not checked.
The Midi output device is a USB Midi 1X1.
I don't experience any stutters when playing music on this computer.
Thank you for the follow-up. Hope this helps.
Michael
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Sounds like MIDI keyboard that has Echo On when recording. That can send multiple hits as the dreaded MIDI Loop...
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Hi Mac,
I'm not using any keyboards at all. I'm developing the music in BB then exporting to a midi file which I play with Sonar which is hooked to a Roland JV-2080. The multiple hits are being developed somewhere in the midi export process. When I play the song in BB and drive the JV-2080 I don't get any hesitations. But when I play the song (without doing any edits what so ever) in Sonar driving the JV-2080, I get hesitations. That's when I went in and looked at the midi file track by track in the staff view function and found the multiple notes. These multiple notes can range anywhere from 3 notes to 33 notes. Obtained the numbers by how many times I had to hit the erase key. :-) I'm going to send the original BB file and the exported midi file to the support folks as Andrew suggested and see what they can find. But thanks for the idea Mac. If you think of anything else please chime in. BTW, i'm in Fredericksburg, VA I see that you are in Chesapeake, VA. So, hello neighbor.
Michael
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Michael,
I'm not in front of my computer now, but it seems to me that there is also a setting for "note overlap" in BIAB when exporting to MIDI. You might want to look into that. Just a thought. I'll try to remember to look at it this evening when I come home from work.
And BTW, I'm about 40 miles north of you in Manassas, VA, neighbor.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 8TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 11TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting and construction)
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Hi Michael,
I remember same happened to me in versions 2009 and 2009.5. By the problem time (v.2009) I tried unsuccessfully different MIDI export configurations and others MIDI menu options settings until I find out the problem ONLY ocurred if the song was loaded in BIAB and immediately exported to MIDI without be regenerated or played with F4. In my case the solution was just that, I hit F4 for every song just loaded, after doing it then MIDI export...voila, problem resolved, perfect MIDI parts to my DAW. Now, at least here, in v.2010, BIAB song MIDI export is working fine. I hope this help in your case. Good luck .
Gabriel Arellano,
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Hello Carlos,
Thank you for the input. I tried the F4 but it still dumps extra notes.
Have a great day,
Michael
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Hello John,
I tried thae note overlap setting and it still dumps extra notes.
Thanks for trying.
Michael
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Hello Andrew,
I just sent two files to you via email. He Thinks He'll Keep Her.sgu and He Things He'll Keep Her.mid
Hope these help.
Michael
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