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I'm working with a certain real track country style in biab and all is well. Open up the same style in RB, and it dumps in a midi part that shouldn't be there and the steel pedal part is missing. I have to put it in manually. Shouldn't RT styles load the same instruments in either biab or RB? The other day the drums were missing in RB when I initially opened this same style. I'm working with RB 2010.5, as well as biab 2010.5. Thanks for any help.
Dan
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The more I play around in RB, the more it seems every RT style that I call a demo up for needs at least one real track regenerated because it was either not generated, or cut off quickly- usually just not generated at all, such as pedal steel or piano. A miscellanious midi track is always generated on a BB track too, which is weird.
Is anyone else having strange behavior similar to this using RB 2010.5? I'd sure like to get a concensous on whether this new version is working glitchy for just me, or it's buggy at the moment. Thanks.
Dan
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I haven't had that happen. Yet *grin* But I think that the lack of response indicates that others have not had that happen either. When the program seems to be doing buggy things, the first thing I try is a Return to Factory Settings. Since Realtracks is based on the Powertracks engine, I found out long ago that I can perform basically the same manual procedure to effect that Return to Factory Settings thus: Quote:
RealBand uses the files listed below for configuration. If you want to restore RealBand to the factory settings, you can delete or rename these files. The next time you launch RealBand, new configuration files will be created. This can help solve or troubleshoot odd and unexplainable problems you are having with the program. The files are found in the root RealBand folder, usually C:\RealBand. Important: You must have RealBand closed when you do this.
We recommend renaming the files (rather than deleting them) or saving a copy of them somewhere else on your hard drive so that you have a backup of your old configuration. For example, you could rename realband.ini to realband.old. Later, if you find that you need to restore your previous settings, you can delete the new realband.ini file that RealBand will have created, and rename realband.old to realband.ini
Note: Some people have trouble finding the files because Windows hides file extensions. In any folder on your computer, go to the Tools menu and click on Folder Options, then click on the View tab and make sure 'Hide extensions for known file types' is unchecked. On Windows 98/ME, the Folder Options item is found under the View menu.
REALBAND.INI. This file contains most of the global RealBand settings, especially the settings in the Options | Preferences and Options | MIDI Devices dialogs. It also has a list of the most recently accessed song files.
RB.CFG. This file contains information about your sound card
The two files above contain most of your program settings; it is usually only necessary to delete those two files.
Certainly worth a try,
--Mac
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I posted a topic with the same problem as Dan is experiencing. In my case, RB2010.5 tries to generate Realtracks, then erases them leaving the last two bars and then proceeds to generate MIDI tracks. There are several different recent posts on this forum that are similar and all have been posted since the 2010.5's were released. Maybe PG can shed some light on this one?
Roy
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I think they should too. It seems buggy, frankly. I've been getting strange things like a RT disappering when I tweak a PG fx setting too.
I'm gonna try RB again this evening and see what's up, including restoring default settings. If I still have a problem, I'm gonna go back to biab and RB 2010. Although, biab is working perfectly at 2010.5. Only RB seems to be flipping out at 2010.5, for me anyway. You can manually regenerate RT's and get the project up to speed, no problem. But RB is having problems initially opening style demos for sure.
Dan
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"When the program seems to be doing buggy things, the first thing I try is a Return to Factory Settings."
What buggy things are you refering to? Something of this nature?
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I'm referring to *anything* that the program starts doing that it isn't supposed to do.
I'd say that about 80 to 90 percent of the time, this cures it.
If it doesn't, I've eliminated one more variable and am that much closer to declaring whatever is going on to be a bona fide BUG. However, I also feel that it takes more reports from at least several different users who can duplicate the bad action before I'm willing to go ahead and call it a BUG. I've been bitten by some weird action that only happened on my machine before. Those can be the hardest to solve IMO, so let's hope its not that.
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Hi,
I too am seeing strange behavior with some RealTracks
Example : I have selected the style _DRUN_G and saved the responding file in Biab (no problems - all RealTracks generate correctly.
The tracks are :
RealTrack 518: Bass, Electric, Pop HalfNotes Ev 085 (on Bass track in Biab)
RealTrack 508: Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Dire Ev 085 (on Piano track in Biab)
RealTrack 542: Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Dreamy Ev 085 (on Guitar track in Biab)
RealTrack 362: Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 085 (on Strings track in Biab)
RealDrums-NashvilleEven8^5-HiHat,Ride (on Drum track in Biab)
When I open the saved Biab file in RealBand
I have noticed that :
The 518 Bass generates OK and places the track OK
The 508 Guitar generates OK and places the track OK
The 542 Guitar generates OK and places the track OK
Now the interesting thing:
When the 362 Guitar generates and places itself on the track The 508 Guitar track
(which has been generated and placed as Audio on the track) is deleted (it only leaves the count-in bars which are empty and places a midi track which corresponds to the Piano track in Biab onto track 3)
This is consistent even when using a different saved song with the same Style.
Anyone try this?
Regards
Michee
Last edited by George Nelson; 07/05/10 10:10 AM.
Windows 11 64 bit, Biab 2024 1111, Realband 2024
i7 Desktop Computer 16Gb Memory
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I have exactly the same problem as the previous posters in this thread so I think that there really is a serious problem in the 2010.5 version of one or both programs. Here is a description of my problem.
First, I load a demo song in Band in a box that uses only realtracks, no midi at all. I generate the tracks by chosing play and it plays fine. I then save it with another name. I load this song in Realband. The bass is in MIDI along with a guitar. The other guitar which should be a fuzzy electric becomes an acoustic guitar. The guitar track that should be a realtrack is there but completely empty. I then play the song which sounds completely different that the original in Band in a box. When I use Band in a box 2010 as the source, this problem does not happen. What gives? Any suggestions anyone? Thanks. By the way, I use Windows 7.
The instruments in the original BB file are All RealTracks: <Guitar, Electric, Rhythm HardRockLAFuzzySync Ev 120>, <Bass, Electric, HardRockLA Ev 120>, Pop Organ & Ac. Guitar. RockHardLA variation 1 RealDrums. I get a midi finger bass 34 instead of the Realbass and a midi guitar and bass. I hope that a patch is posted soon. Thanks.
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I tried removing the two configuration files in Realband but it doesn't change anything. Hope the problem is solved soon. Thanks.
Mike.
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I believe it's the same issue that I posted in the other thread. The notation seems to be messing up the RTs. in this version for some reason.
It's been reported.
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This was fast, good work. I've seen this too but didn't bother reporting it since this thread was already here and I have my own issues.
Now, I can't help myself....
ANY news on the VST tempo lock problem??
Bob
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Thank you for a right quick fix!
Dan
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