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I want to compose a midi bass soundtrack using piano roll.

I erase the previous bass from the .sty and add my notes but when play to listen, they convert back to the old track.

Am I missing something or doesnt biab let you do this?

Whats the best method to lay down an original track in biab without the use of a keyboard ?

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Yes, you are certainly "missing something":

We cannot alter the *auto-accompaniment* tracks, B,D,G,P,S - because the Style file will indeed override what you modified there as soon as we reload the song or hit Play again. This is by design.

One way to get a bassline that you desire is to create your own custom User Style using the Style editor and inserting your own Patterns into the style. This can be involved.

Another way would be to take advantage of the Melody or Soloist tracks. There are the two tracks that allow us to record or enter notes that will "stick".

Then Save with Patches and Harmony but do not check the original Bass track to be saved and played with the song if your Bass track covers the entire song.

The fastest way to enter songs when you do not have a MIDI keyboard is to use the QWERTY keyboard wizard to punch in the notes in the desired rhythm. The notes will not be the exact note values you want yet, but the Wizard makes them sound harmonically with the chords as the song plays. Next step is to go into the Notation Editor and grab each note and DRAG it with the mouse to the right note you want to hear. This does not take as long as it sounds, it is rather neat actually.

The BiaB FAQ has a little tutorial on accomplishing the above entry method, too.


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Hi dfaris,

By default, the Bass track will regenerate each time you open new song (or regenerate it). Once you have made the alterations that you want, you can "Freeze" this track and this will keep those alterations in place. Alternatively, it is also possible to work in Realband and to make the changes there as RB keeps individual tracks static by default.

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Yes, "Freeze" can work - but be advised that if you ever need to go back in there and EDIT something in that track, UNfreezing leaves the *entire track* vulnerable to sudden and complete erasure if you make a mistake as I have and hit Play at the wrong time...

I was savvy enough to close the song without Saving and then reopen the song to get those notes back.



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And if you make any changes to the chord progression, a frozen track will not recognize those changes. So your only option is to unfreeze an regenerate in that case.

If you want full control of the notes, RealBand is the place you want to be.


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If you want full control of the notes, RealBand is the place you want to be.




Well, that kind of statement really depends on what that end user wishes to do though.

For example, those of us who use BiaB in live performance would want to keep it in BiaB, so to speak.


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Thanks Guys!

I will try out all your methods.

I prefer to do it in biab but I love RB too.

Im at work right now so I cant experiment. (I gotta win the lottery!)

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Yes, you are certainly "missing something":

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The fastest way to enter songs when you do not have a MIDI keyboard is to use the QWERTY keyboard wizard to punch in the notes in the desired rhythm. The notes will not be the exact note values you want yet, but the Wizard makes them sound harmonically with the chords as the song plays. Next step is to go into the Notation Editor and grab each note and DRAG it with the mouse to the right note you want to hear. This does not take as long as it sounds, it is rather neat actually.

The BiaB FAQ has a little tutorial on accomplishing the above entry method, too.
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Thanks for the reminder, Mac. I had watched that video before, but had forgotten about it. I thought I had remembered reading about it in the "manual" also. I checked the 2010 manual and there's a section explaining the wizard. However, I went back and checked the manual for 2008.5 and it's explanation is easier to understand, IMHO.

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