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In a statement the WEBMASTER has indicated:
"We're getting more posts with advertisting in them.
Please refrain from advertisements in the forums. These posts will get removed."
Could the webmaster please clarify whether a link to a site or product in the forum that would enhance BIAB and would be of possible interest to users of the PGMusic site is now not permitted.?
If so then this would also need to include the products advertised by PGMusic (e.g SD2, Helicon, Finale etc ) would it not?.
Cheers.
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This topic has moved on and probably for all intents and purposes has now closed but the way I read it is this. Pg don't mind a brief signature on your post to a site or mention of hardware or software and link in your post, BUT blatant advertising (that is other than a brief announcement) to products for band in a box, that is trying to get the user to buy that product and is so posted as to make that product seem superior to band in a box products is definitely not allowed. This makes sense to me as after all this is PGmusic’s website and forum so why should they suffer because of someone "trying it on"...etc This is my personal interpretation of the webmasters announcement, and I believe he had to do so. 
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...If so then this would also need to include the products advertised by PGMusic (e.g SD2, Helicon, Finale etc ) would it not?....
Cheers.
Strange logic.
i don't think any company needs to outlaw advertising its own products on its own forum page.
The webmaster's post was not a suicide pact... 
--Mac
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"Strange logic.
i don't think any company needs to outlaw advertising its own products on its own forum page."
Thanks Mac. But if you dont mind me saying so - strange reply since the products I referred to are not PgMusic's products. (SD2, Fianale ??)
I welcome these interpretations but a clear statement from the webmaster would be useful.
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Frank you're either; 1. you've been in the Outback too long 2. trying to start trouble were there is none. PgMusic does not owe you an explanation as to what they put on their site.They obviously have an arrangement to sell these products. Other Products
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Whoops! This should be re: Frank, not Silvertones...
Well, where I come from, whatever PGMusic is selling is consdiered to be their products. Regardless of whether or not they developed or manufactured them, they are stocking them and retailing these products for profit, hence they are theirs to advertise as well.
Surely you can see the obvious difference.
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So here we have a regular, albeit highly intelligent but often waspish, contributor to this forum extolling the virtues of the Ketron SD2 sound module manufactured in Acona, Italy. Posting actual examples of its capabilities on this forum and announcing “Look Ma No Realtracks”. Is that advertising or not? Well it was good enough to convince me - I bought one.
I have on several occasions referred to the East-West products of sound modules and SONAR because they can enhance BIAB generated tracks as I showed with some examples. Is that advertising or not?
Or is it that it is only advertising if the “manufacturer” does it “blatantly” (what ever that means) is it considered to be advertising? Well, what about a well-known “manufacturer”, trying to make a living, who has for many years produced many alternative and superior midi styles in my opinion, thereby enhancing BIAB posts on this forum. So is this then advertising or not? Doesn’t seem much different from the first example.
All I’m asking the webmaster are the guidelines to what constitutes advertising as far as PGMusic is concerned. Not cynicism, or others interpretation, just a clear detailed statement. As it stands the directive is open to too much interpretation for users to “guess” what is meant to be “advertising”.
Cheers F
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So here we have a regular, albeit highly intelligent but often waspish, contributor to this forum extolling the virtues of the Ketron SD2 sound module manufactured in Acona, Italy. Posting actual examples of its capabilities on this forum and announcing “Look Ma No Realtracks”. Is that advertising or not? Well it was good enough to convince me - I bought one.
This is a personal attack and as such is against the rules of this forum.
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I think advertising and user recommendations are two completely different things (even with links to the site where you can find said recommendations). From what I've seen (and I, like Mac, have been on the forums here for a long time) can see a huge difference between advertising and user recommendations.
Personal attacks, however, are strictly out!
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Hello Frank, You asked for an explanation from the webmaster, but other than the Thread that the webmaster posted (and it seems very clear to me what he/she meant) I would be very surprised if he/she will or feels the need to clarify what has been already stated in the thread. Let's look at it from a general point of view. Let’s take a company and call it Music4u that is in business to make some money and has to do so to pay its way, employer wages and other bills. It sells its products and also has an arrangement with some other companies to sell their products too at a profit to Music4u. If another company lets call it Music4u2 develops some software for Music4u main product and posts on Music4u forum about it, then it is up to Music4u to decide whether that post is allowed. They may allow it for some time even years but it is a voluntary arrangement which can be withdrawn at any time, especially if Music4u2 starts using a more aggressive form of advertising on music4u's website that could or may affect music4u's sales. Once again my interpretation. Anyways I feel everyone even including me has gone off on a tangent and in a way I feel that it’s only fair to PGmusic to keep their main forum for their flagship product free for all band in a box music related activities.
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