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hello, i wish to suggest PG Music to create a lite edition band in a box for ipad. I can imagine many one-man-band keyboardist like those performing in hotels, wanting to use iPad instead of a laptop. the next version of iOS (november) will include CoreMIDI API, so that I can just plug in my usb midi keyboard to use the Ipad as sound module/arranger.
being able to compose, arrange, etc.. using band in a box with Ipad's touchscreen is definitely something I'd love to do
was never a fan of apple stuff, but this coreMIDI definitely opened my eyes. but why not laptop some may ask. 1) long battery life 2) crippled multitasking (stability is a plus for live performance) 2) light and slim
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Welcome to the forum. Your information about an upcoming change in OS features is interesting.
There is a Wishlist forum here, where this post probably should be. You will see other posts about this and similar suggestions, so you're not alone.
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Hi Nick and welcome. There was quite a discussion about this earlier this year and the consensus seemed to be it's not just the OS with the Ipad but the CPU. It's too weak to handle Biab especially the Real Tracks which is the main reason folks are using Biab now. Rendering RT's takes a lot of processing power. As it is even with a powerful modern home PC it takes too long to generate a 5 part RT song for live work so I don't think a Ipad could do it. For live work people render the song first, then freeze the tracks ahead of time for quick playback later. I'm not sure what a "lite" version of Biab would accomplish. Someone doing a live gig wants the absolute best sound they can get. If you're not using RT's then we're going back to the "bad" old midi cheesy synth days using a lame GM midi synth unless the Ipad could handle large sample sets or use an external sound module like the Ketron but does the Ipad have a USB port that could be used with an external sound module?
Bob
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Unless the ipad comes out with usb ports and other I/O functions I suspect it's not viable.
Blackberry on the other hand has announced a tablet that will run on QNX, which is a tweaked version of Unix for real-time apps, and will have I/O like hdmi/usb etc. This will happen someday.
I tried the ipad in a store and found it ok for webrowsing but after a few minutes the best I could see it doing is a nice slideshow. I can't see using it for development, maybe if you were brought up that that was the only keyboard it might fly with you, but I can type 30 times faster on a real keyboard.
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Right and something I remembered from the previous thread is the Ipad doesn't use Apple's regular OS. It uses something specific to the Ipad so it's not like PG can simply adapt the Mac version of Biab. It's a completely different deal.
Btw John, I've been following your medical adventures and I'm glad you're back home but too bad about your hearing. At least it's better than the alternative. Sounds like you're getting some excellent care. I go to the West LA VA and man oh man there's some foxy young female doc's running around there too. A lot of girls been going to med school the last 10-15 years. Almost makes me want to check myself in...Good luck.
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But why not have an iPad version of the BIAB iPhone app? I tried using the same one, but it was small and blurry if enlarged. We could use a version optomized for iPad use, one that we could see much better.
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Blessings!
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I am a biab user since the late 80's. 1986 to be exact.
I love biab.
BIAB MUST make an iPad version. I'm a windows guy but the iPad is (or will become)a must for gigging musicians.
I love my iPad. I take it out to every gig. I'm still a Windows guy when it comes to producing backing music (Semi Pro). But take my iPad to gigs.
There is something similar already for iPad. Look into the "Real b" App.
Very much like BIAB from the early versions (before you could add a melody to the song).
I am disappointed Peter. (You know who I am talking to here). Have you become too arrogant to see the future. You were WAY ahead of your time in the 80's and 90's.
Whats up with "were NOT making an iPad version because the CPU is too weak."
You mean the 286 CPU was powerful ????? (maybe in the 80's yes)
Come on brother. At least make a BIAB Player so we can port songs we made in our windows/mac version to the iPad when we go out to gig.
Maybe BIAB is now too big of an organization to do it.
There you have it. Gauntlet laid down.
A lover looking at another.
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I don't mind having my BIAB program reside on my computer and being able to access my completed song files as in BIAB for iPhone.... My wish is to be able to see those files on my iPad in decent resolution. The older I get, the more important that is! An iPad version of the current iPhone version that would take advantage of the larger format with high-def instead of "2x" would be sooo nice! How about it Peter? That wouldn't be an overwhelming problem for the CPU and would be a viable solution....
Blessings!
Ken
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Hi Rob, The player has been available for a while now, it just requires Band-in-a-Box 2011 or 2011.5 for Windows to be installed on your PC. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/band-in-a-box/id397173717?mt=8Thanks Kent PG Music
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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