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Hallo Forum, wie kann ich am besten meine Arrangements exportieren und dabei auch aussteuern? Ideal wäre mp3 Format.
Vielen Dank
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Also ich habe jetzt über .WAV rendern einen Export gemacht, aber leider ist die Aufnahme viel zu hoch ausgepegelt und klingt extrem verzerrt, obwohl ich den Aufnahmelevel meiner Soundkarte runtergeregelt habe. Gibt es eine Möglichkeit das anzupassen?
Last edited by MZB; 12/24/10 11:14 AM.
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Heilig Abend vor dem PC verbracht?!
Welche BIAB-Version? Welche Soundkarte? Wurden RealTracks oder Midis gerendert? Wenn Midi, dann über DXI oder ohne? Stereo, Mono, eine oder mehrere Wave pro Song? usw. usw ...
Mehr Angaben würden helfen!
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Also gut, ich versuche mal das ein bischen einzugrenzen, obwohl ich wenig Ahnung habe. Ich habe eine onboard Soundkarte Marke Realtek ALC 888 Audio. Ich habe keine Real Tracks gerendert und habe auch kein Midi verwendet. Was du mit Wave pro Song meinst weiß ich nicht. Ich habe ein ganz einfaches Playback erstellt also Akkorde eingegeben Style ausgesucht, fertig. Das wollte ich für jemanden aufnehmen, und habe das Teil exportiert. Leider ist die Aufnahme viel zu hoch ausgepegelt (verzerrt) und das würde ich gern per Hand vor dem Exportieren aussteuern. Bei meiner Soundkarte gibt es einen Regler (in der Taskleiste das Symbol mit dem Speaker), den habe ich runtergeregelt, aber trotzdem ist die Aufnahme so wie ich beschrieben habe. Vielleicht gibt es ja eine Möglichkeit die ich verstehen kann um Abhilfe zu schaffen? Thx
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Antwort auf:
Ich habe keine Real Tracks gerendert und habe auch kein Midi verwendet.
Wenn Du weder RealTracks noch Midi-Instrumente verwendet hast, dann dürftest Du eigentlich gar nichts hören - egal wie es ausgesteuert ist.
Welchen Style hast Du denn ausgewählt? Sind die Instrumentenspuren oben grün (RealTracks) oder gelb (Midi)? Und welche BIAB-Version verwendest Du?
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Der Style heißt ZZJazz.STY Jazz Swing Style. Die Instrumente sind gelb und ich verwende BIAB 2009.
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OK, der Style hat nur drei Midi-Instrumente (B,P,D).
Biab 2009 ist schon vier Versionen zurück, ich hoffe, ich erinnere mich noch:
1. In den Prefs müssen die Midi-Treiber korrekt gesetzt sein: Input KEIN, Output MS GS Wavetable. Notfalls Klick auf Driver-Wizzard.
2. Häkchen bei "DXI/Vsti synth verwenden" setzen, falls ForteDXI oder Roland VSC Installiert ist. Falls nein, kein Häkchen setzen.
3. Audio-Treiber auf MME kein ASIO.
Dann Song laden und Waverender Dialog aufrufen. Dort:
1. Häkchen bei Stereodatei, KEIN Häkchen bei "Eine Wavedatei pro Spur"
2. bei Lautstärke und Amplitude jeweils 0 eintragen
Wenn Du bei Midi-treiber "DXI/Vsti synth verwenden" gewählt hast, jetzt auf "DXI/Vst direct render" klicken. BIAB rendert Wave über DXI in wenigen Sekunden.
Wenn Du keinen DXI/Vsti synth verwendest, dann weiter unten auf "* nach Wave rendern" klicken. Biab rendert dann in Echtzeit, dh. der Song wird in voller Länge und normalem Tempo abgespielt und dabei über den MS GS Wavetable Softwaresynth von Windows gerendert.
Wavedatei testen.
Die Pegel stellst Du unter Windows in der Systemsteuerung ein. Bei Win7 im Mixer Doppelklick auf Systemsound und im Reiter "Aufname" Doppelklick auf Realtek Stereomix, dort unter Pegel einstellung vornehmen.
Bei XP und Vista gibts event. Unterschiede.
Ralf
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Hallo ralfboe, ich habe das alles so gemacht, wie du geschrieben hast, außer Lautstärke und Amlitude (das habe ich nicht gefunden) auf 0 zu setzen. Trotzdem habe ich probeweise gerendert, aber das Ergebnis ist genauso verzerrt, wie es vorher auch war. Die Bässe dröhnen wie sonst was, auch wenn ich die Lautstärke reduziere. Trotzdem vielen Dank für deine detaillierte Anleitung. Wer noch eine Idee hat lasse es mich bitte wissen. Vielen Dank.
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Welche Variante hast Du denn verwendet: Mit oder ohne DXI/VSti? Wie klingt die Soundkarte denn, wenn BIAB den Song normal ohne Rendern abspielt? Die Onboad-Karten haben oft auch eine "Soundverbesserung" oder Sourraundklang eingestellt. Schau mal, ob es eine eigene Einstellungssoftware für die Realtek gibt. Ansonsten update Deine BIAB 2009 Version mit der kostenlosen Version 2009.5, Bild 287: http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#287 Da sind auch viele Fixes drin. Vielleicht hilft das. Ralf
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Ich habe die Variante ohne Dxi/Vsti genommen. Wenn ich den Song normal abspiele, ist der Sound O.K. Die Soundkarte ist standarmäßig eingestellt, es gibt halt Möglichkeiten den Hall/Raumklang etc. zu verändern, ich denke aber das ist gut eingestellt. Mit dem Update mache ich demnächst mal, dann melde ich mich wieder. Ich wüßte trotzdem gerne, warum gibt es eigentlich bei BiaB keine Möglichkeit beim "runtermischen" den Pegel einzuregeln? Das ist doch eigentlich Standard. Bis demnächst. Danke.
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Fürs Pegeln greift BIAB auf die Einstelloptionen und Mixer der Soundkarten zurück. Da es davon unzählige gibt, macht das Sinn. Vor allem qualitativ hochwertige Recordingkarten bringen umfangreiche eigene Einstellungsdialoge und Mixer einschließlich Routing mit, da sie oft mehrkanalig sind. Das kann BIAB in der Fülle für alle Karten nicht abbilden.
Dein Problem könnte eventuell auch daran liegen, dass die Onboardkarte auf eine falsche Samplingrate eingestellt ist. BIAB rendert mit 44,1 Khz (CD-Audio), die RealTEK-Onboardkarten können auch auf 48 Khz eingestellt werden (DVD-Audio). Schau mal, wie sie bei Dir eingestellt ist und korrigiere das ggf. auf 44,1.
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Das hat funktioniert, die Sampelrate war wirklich auf 48 KHz eingestellt, ich habe das auf 44,1 KHz korrigiert und den Song neu gerendert. Jetzt ist der Sound gut. Vielen Dank für die Hilfe ralfboe.
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