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(BIAB 2011)The song is 6/8 time rumba.
I need to set the first 3 notes to silence.
I tried to set it in "Chord Settings" but the only settings I could get was a full bar silence.
Thank you in advance.
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Could you please give more info?

What style is this?

Is the song in 3/4 or 4/4 (since BIAB does not support 6/8 directly)?

What is the duration of each of the "first three notes"?


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I guess with the Midi tracks you could just go into edit mode and delete the notes. Any good?

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(BIAB 2011)The song is 6/8 time rumba.
I need to set the first 3 notes to silence.
I tried to set it in "Chord Settings" but the only settings I could get was a full bar silence.
Thank you in advance.
Walt




Could you really be looking to have a pickup note on the last beat of four before the song starts?

BiaB can do that. But not entered as an auto-accompaniment chord.

You could fake it by first inserting a 1-bar "intro" before the chorus start, then set the first three chord entries to Rest All Instruments and place the fourth chord there on the 4th beat.

To enter 4 chords per bar, you must realize that there are two "cells" in each BiaB bar.

First cell, place a comma between the two chords - C,F

Second cell, place the same thing for beats three and four - F,G

Of course the first three would have dot(s) after them if Rested, using the Bar Settings window you can enter all four and select rests in the little window that opens.


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Thanks Matt,
I apoligize for my ignorance.
The tune is "No More" Elvis's tune. The style is "Rhumba_G" not in 6/8 like indicated but 4/4.
In the 18th. bar it goes*** 1/4 1/8 1/8 1/4 1/4 1/4. The first 3 notes are silent.
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Thanks Matt,
I apoligize for my ignorance.
The tune is "No More" Elvis's tune. The style is "Rhumba_G" not in 6/8 like indicated but 4/4.
In the 18th. bar it goes*** 1/4 1/8 1/8 1/4 1/4 1/4. The first 3 notes are silent.
Thanks again,
Walt




Walt, are those fractions depicting Quarter Notes and 8th Notes?

If so, then they represent 5 full beats, which aren't going to fit in a 4-beat bar by themselves, not to include the three Quarter Note rests you want ahead of them.

You've allowed but one beat for all of those notes.

Referencing this performance by Elvis on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwmnVgkW0AM

Forget any idea of 6/8 for this tune, it is straight 4/4.

'1 AND 2 AND 3 AND 4 AND' - the "8 to the bar" thang.

Bass line is like a Dotted Quarter followed by a pushed quarter on 3rd beat, followed by a quarter.

At the bar with the break, no chords, it is the Melody, the part which Elvis sings that has the rest followed by the notes. "Darling I love you so..."

This is an 8th note rest followed by a quarter note tied to an 8th note followed by an 8th and a quarter, with a final 8th on the AND of 4.

The lyric, "So" from the above line starts on the first beat of the next measure.

This can be applied using the Mouse on the Melody track of BiaB in Notation Edit mode in the Notation window by first checking the "Rest" checkbox above the staffline and then clicking once on the first vertical dotted line. Be sure that the notation is in STRAIGHT and not Swing so that you have 4 vertical dotted lines of subdivision and note 3 per beat.

Okay, once you click the Rest on the downbeat of the first beat of the bar, just click with the mouse again on the second dotted vertical line, the "AND" of 1 and a loooong note appears. Notice that the Rest checkbox turned itself off automatically after the rest was entered, allowing entry of a note again. Don't sweat that loooong note you just entered, it will automatically change value to the right value when you click the next note. That note should get entered on the second vertical dotted line of the 2nd beat. Now you should have an 8th rest followed by a quarter note followed by another long note.

Click the next note on the first beatline of beat 3 and the last note you entered changes to proper value, which would be an 8th.

continue entering the pickup notes in that fashion.

The figure here is thus: 8th rest, Quarter Note, 8th Note, 8th Note, Quarter Note, 8th Note.

BiaB cannot do this as a Chord Entry. And I can think of no reason to do it that way, wouldn't sound too good and besides that, it is really a break with the singer doing pickup notes into the next bar.

Of course, one could enter the Melody on the Melody track in entirety and then invoke one of the MIDI Harmonies on it, which would make for chording throughout the Melody, pickups inclusive.


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Thanks so much Matt. I'll work on it tonight. I think I understand everything.The sheets I have is from Don Robertson, composer of the tune (I think) anyway it's identical to Elvis'.
Thanks again,
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Mac, Thanks so much. You guys are the greatest for solving problems. As you can tell I'm not much if an arranger but I enjoy the challanges, needless to say I enjoy doing my own thing.
Thanks again,
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