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We're making some Jazz Guitar Solo Accompaniment Jazz Guitar styles. This would be a solo style that would be used to backup a singer or a sax player etc. We have 2 choices of guitar to use - a "Solidy Body" or a Archtop (Super400). Please have a listen to the sample, and place your vote in this thread Solid Body (Roadstar) (example #1 on the demo) Archtop Super 400 (example #2 on the demo) http://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/jazzu/misc/2_Guitars_Ballad_060_Sample.mp3To vote, just reply with the words "Solid Body (Roadstar)" or "Archtop (Super 400)" near the top, along with any comments that you have.
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Archtop (Super 400)
The Super is much more smooooth. I like it.
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My vote is for the Archtop (Super 400).
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The Super is much more smooooth. I like it.
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They both sound great. The Roadstar has a "brighter" sound then the Archtop to my ears. But, the Archtop sounds more refined.
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I prefer the archtop sound. But please, record a solid body as solo jazz guitar a la Mike Stern or John Scofield.
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Archtop Super 400. I love that mellow sound.
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From my friend who is a Jazz Guitarist.
archtop super 400
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The Gibson Archtop 400! Would be nice if you guys could get your hands on a L5. 
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I had an '58 L-5...nice jazzer Git Fiddle too...I did single guitar vocals with it and with jazz singers. But what's wrong with a "Burrell Flattop" .. Actually on the following clip, he ends the tune going from flat-top to "Super Gibson".... Check out his bass player, Bob Magnuson on this one...now that's a cool dude, too. He'd be a cool BIAB player! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ipftv39YU  
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For the purpose stated, I would say the Archtop Super 400 (2nd example).
Both very nice-sounding guitars, and if in an ensemble situation the first guitar would most likely cut through a mix better.
Thanks for asking our opinions.
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Wow... it's unanimous... Archtop it is.....
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I also loved the tone of the archtop, but it does not sound as clear as the solid body. I'm not a guitarist, so I have no idea why that would be. It's not just the volume of the recording, either: the first guitar was louder than the second (which would normally make it sound "better" just for that reason, and yet everyone likes the second).
Were these two recorded the same way? If you can record the tone of the second but get the clarity of the first recording, I would prefer that.
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As guitarist, I prefer the Archtop Super 400 with no hesitation. This sound will blend better with a singer or a sax or an Harmmond organ sound.
Hope the track will not be too busy.
A suggestion : if for ex., the Jazz Guitar track is 8 bars long, the 4 first bars could be unbusy, and the 4 last bars could become busier and busier. Or Make a unbusy track and another busy track,...
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"Archtop (Super 400)" Archtop Super 400 sound great! the best choice to me, it deliver a classic jazz guitar tone with that dark smooth character, plenty of acoustic jazz box body, so longed for by purist jazz players. About the solid body roadstar, despite to be more in the bright clear side, in strict audio terms, I feel it does sound a little thin. Sometimes, in studio and live jazz music gigs, I use a Les Paul guitar because I find it a little more comfortable for its size, compared to my archtop. My approach is based in to get the most possible similar archtop tone, while taking advantage of the solid body tonal features and its greater feedback reject. Here an example with my solid body Les Paul , a cheap but surprisingly well made chinese replica. There are three different tonal approaches in the sample, using the same guitar part. http://www.carlosarellano.com/biab/solidbody_jazzguitar.mp3Carlos
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There are indeed certain jazz artists who can make the solid body simply sing, Pat Martino comes to mind immediately, these people have mastered making the plank sound like it might be an archtop.
That said, in these two examples, I too prefer the Super 400.
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