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I guess it really boils down to either an inexpensive Yamaha or a Casio. i have a Yamaha PSR - e423 which is a lot of fun, but is more like an organ. Even though it has touch sensitivity, it doen't have "feel" sensitivity, if you know what i mean. Problem is if i try to record "midi" accurately, the "organ" touch is always off and I have to waste time editing. if i played a real piano, the notes would be much more accurate. its the feel of the keys that throws me off. Consequently I don't use a keyboard much for recording, which is a shame. So i am going to try the Yamaha np30 which has great reviews but I remember playing some Casios that had a really good piano feel. Ultimately I know it comes down to me actually playing the things and seeing what i like, but am just polling some opinions from anyone who has played these relatively inexpensive pianos and know their comparable features besides playability. (200-350 bucks tops). ((I couldn't spend any more than that as i am a guitarist and guitar is king.)) ((DREAM: If i was going to get a keyboard I liked, and money wasn't an object, a nord electro-2!)) Opinions in the (200-350 range are welcome!  thanks superkristen
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I have just been through the process of trying to find an inexpensive keyboard with a piano feel so here are my comments. I had a Casio WK500 which, as a long time piano player, I found almost impossible to play well when playing it like a piano. There are a number of keyboards with "semi-weighted" keys like the Casio Privia series which are much better but are a bit above your price range. I almost bought a Korg SP250 which has real weighted keys but it sells for about $600-$700. Eventually I bought a Yamaha CP33 which has weighted keys and a true piano feel but it sells for $999. I honestly don't think there is a keyboard out there with a piano feel that sells for $350. the manufacturers use a lot of different words to describe the feel of their keys but it must say "weighted" or at least "semi weighted" to approach a piano feel and even then you have to check the feek for yourself.
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Tony,
I think you are right. I went to guitar center and tried all different brands of keyboards without even looking at the price. I just turned them on and played some chords and basic melodies, and pushed some "feature" buttons to see how each one sounded. The one I felt most comfortable with was the Casio Privia PX-330 which was about 700. It had more features than the lower priced privias, and more voices, a few of which I could really be happy with.
The verdict. I will keep my magical do-everything by itself Yamaha PSR - e423 with the plastic keys, and sometime in the future get the privia ( or something similar).
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Good thinking.... I recently bought a Casio PX3 (now about $700) and I love it.
I also have a 7-foot Yamaha grand, and a vintage weighted Roland A-80 (and several trashy synth KBs that don't feel very good under the fingers). The Privia is wonderfully light (portable, unlike the Roland), and it even sounds good. I love playing it, the touch. I know some folks don't think that touch and weighting are important, but for those of us raised up playing real keyboards, it really does matter.
Save up for a good purchase -- you won't be sorry. I would add, though, that Casio is not the only brand with a new line of semi-weighted KBs that play nicely. It just might be the most affordable, most playable combination, though.
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A lot of pianists like the weighted keyboards on the Yamaha digital piano or Clavinova line.
Real weighted keys cost quite a bit more money, as already noted.
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You're talking about using it to record midi and the problem is most of the decent low priced consumer piano keyboards have no midi or usb connections including the Previa. I liked that $300 Yamaha 88 key and the Previa. I was looking at them last year with the thought I might use one as a controller with my computer and then looked at the back of them and no midi connections. They don't have pitch bend or mod wheels either. You need a semi pro unit that specifically says it can be used as a controller and naturally that ups the price considerably especially if you want a nice feel to it. There's a whole bunch of basic controllers for $199 or so (no sound) that hook up to your PC, have all kinds of cool templates to control your music software and work fine but...their keyboard actions are total plastic crap but new ones are coming out all the time so maybe... Unfortunately the only keyboards that I know for a fact have a good pro level action either weighted or semi weighted are your regular big name stage keyboards from Roland, Yamaha, Korg, Kurzweil etc. My advice is to look for a used pro stage 61 key semi weighted anything from one of those companies for $400-500 or so. It will have a pretty good feeling action plus you get a full synth soundbank to play with too. If you find something and need a 2nd opinion before you buy it email me, I'm familiar with pretty much all of them.
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Bob:
The Privia (not "Previa".... you must be thinking of a Toyota) most certainly DOES have midi and USB outputs, as well as a pitch bend.
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Kristen, Have you looked into a weighted midi controller keyboard? You could connect it to the Yamaha for the Piano sounds, if you like those. Or, connect it to PC, record your midi data and then re-connect the Yamaha for the playback sounds. Some work in that, but it would work. Craigslist in your area as well. People are always selling musical instruments on that. Buyer beware with Craigslist. Try before you buy is my motto. I will search some sites for the weighted controller and see if someone has one reasonably priced. Trax Semi Weighted M Audio $219 Semi Weighted, GM Synth, 88 keys $399
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Daytona is a long way from Naples .. just sayin (Your Area $350) I look at the URL's, so if I'm wrong ... sorry  Orlando is closer, but still a ride!  There are some great second hand deals out there now though, Musictrax mentioned.
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I have my sons maudio es-61 keystation (as well as my new yamaha "instant-do everything keyboard with plasit keys) for midi input but it does not have the right tough reponse.
Also, trying to play these as a piano is totally unreal. At least for me... I can't do it. I cannot play well but I do appreciate the feel of a real piano. I used to have a fender rhodes (which to me is the ultimate piano in feel and sound) but it was ultra heavy so I got rid of it. I just didn't play it well enough to keep it.
The reason i mentioned having midi cababilty and the right "touch response" is because .... why not? If its electronic I think it SHOULD have all this stuff built in nowadays. It should also include a dishwasher. All the extra accompaniment stuff is great for the non-pro like myself and actually help me to learn piano better. Although none of these keyboards have the feel of the rhodes, i likes the privia I mentioned. I am sure there are better ones feel and soundwise but primarily being a guitarist i can't spend to much..
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They do make "Hammer Grade" feel midi keyboards, with or without a synth in them. They start about $600 for the controller 88 keys only type though. Kind'a pricey.
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Kristen, A few years ago, I picked up a Yamaha P-80 digital piano at my local Guitar Center. It was used, and I paid about $500 for it back then. What I would do is go to your local music stores, and look for trade ins. I'd be willing to bet you can get an 88 key digital piano, or stage piano, or something like that, for close to what you're asking. Might look at this Kurzweil http://orlando.craigslist.org/msg/2254173568.htmlOr, this Kurzweil http://ocala.craigslist.org/msg/2288273793.htmlOr, this one: http://ocala.craigslist.org/msg/2242901713.htmlOr, if you're willing to spend a bit more for a piece of furniture, this one. http://orlando.craigslist.org/msg/2252612164.htmlGary
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Hi there,
For what its worth I just bought the Casio CDP-200R digital piano and the weighting imo is brilliant. It is adjustable as well. I am VERY happy with it. I plugged in the USB, selected the driver in BIAB and RB and voila, perfect, no latency issues , nothing
Salesman says it is best kept secret as far as he is concerned if you cannot afford the more expensive Yamaha's
Over here in South Africa everything is far more expensive that over at you side of the pond due to all the taxes and duties .... so this was relative speaking affordable for me.
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Kristen: Gary's advice is good - your best buy will be a used KB. And if you play piano, a weighted KB is pretty well essential. I had a Technics KB I bought in 1990 (long gone) and the touch was not too bad, and it had MIDI IN/OUT, but no USB if I remember correctly. Since Technics has been discontinued for quite a while, they will likely be the cheapest. At the time of their discontinuance (2003), they were probably technically ahead of the major brands such as Yamaha and Roland. For more detailed help try: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthrea...20&%20.htmlYou may find something with a search and not have to register, but there's no charge so registering might be the best. I go there fairly often, and the same question has been asked a few times at least. Glenn
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I have an opinion, it's like inexpensive wood working tools or anything else. It often is a bad idea and when you discover this you still have to spend the extra money anyway to get something that sounds/feels/works decent or decently, as the case may be.
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I agree with Ron. If you are to make an investment why not make it at some place where you are getting best results, then to spend over and over again just to make things work.
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I feel your pain. As a guitarist, it is not unusual to find outstanding used instrumets for aroud the $300 price point, and even brand new ones. As a keyboard player you have to pretty much double that before you walk out the door or log on to search. I guess part of it is the amount of material that goes into making it. It doesn't take all that much to make a solidbody guitar, just some wire and wood. A keyboard has a lot more moving parts that have to work perfectly for years to come. Also it's difficult to get in there to fix a broken part so the components are a much higher spec, unlike some of the above mentioned new guitars. Many people that buy these end up upgrading most or all of the components. My guess is, if one of the bigs did come out with a fully weighted board in that price range, it might attract some buzz at first, but it would't be around for long. Just my .02, YMMV Happy Searching 
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For what its worth I just bought the Casio CDP-200R digital piano and the weighting imo is brilliant. It is adjustable as well. I am VERY happy with it. I plugged in the USB, selected the driver in BIAB and RB and voila, perfect, no latency issues , nothing
Salesman says it is best kept secret as far as he is concerned if you cannot afford the more expensive Yamaha's
Did anybody else look at this? !! from CountryTrash post above..
http://www.samash.com/p/Casio_CDP200R%20Portable%20Digital%20Piano%20BStock_-49947917
Cheapest 88 weighted I have seen, and CountryTrash seems to think it's a deal.
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When I was looking for an inexpensive weighted key 88 note piano at looked at the Casio series and couldn't find a logical reason not to buy one, but I didn't. I bought a Yamaha CP33 instead for $999. The problem with the Casios is that they are too inexpensive! I cannot believe that a piano costing less than a third and half the weight of the Yamaha is any good. I swallowed the extra $700 and for once in my life made an illogical choice.
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