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I've been using BIAB since December 2009 (I am one of those who do the "Decemberish" PG Music purchase thing mentioned earlier) and I am still just scratching the surface on this incredible program!

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I have one of those E-Mu 1616 breakout boxes that runs off the laptop card and it's been gathering dust for a couple years since I got busy doing other things besides mobile recording. In the meantime that laptop died and the next couple I bought didn't have that big card slot any more.




I dare to say they are probably not being used. I noticed the absence of the pcmcia slot when I started buying more current laptops. I don't upgrade very much, I'm always being dragged kicking and screaming into new technology. I've never used the E-Mu but it looks like a pretty versatile and powerful box. I'm not a big tech person but it seems for laptops everything has gone usb, firewire, or express card slots.


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Yeah I think you are right, they have gone the way of the floppy disk. It's too bad, too, because with the right connections it's a smokin' little unit. It would be hard to find somebody to give it away to now, let alone sell it.


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I've heard of the Roland VSC...was this just a software version of a hardware synth module?





Yes, Roland had a module called the Sound Canvas. Basically a midi box with a synth inside it, or if you like, the electronics from a keyboard without the keyboard itself. But the name Sound Canvas was used across a whole product range that included PC cards and all sorts of things.

Here's a summary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Sound_Canvas

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Me too

I just discovered this as well - looking for a great backing program

I knew a saxophonist in NY that got this and said it was great and I shrugged it off as amateur

I had a real DAW and thats what pros used

Well here I am to say Hi
I am a newby in BIAB and lovin it

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Never too late. Welcome, L5Lover!


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Hi L5 lover,
My (guitarist) brother is looking for a Gibson L5... they're quite valuable these days!


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I've heard of the Roland VSC...was this just a software version of a hardware synth module?





Yes, Roland had a module called the Sound Canvas. Basically a midi box with a synth inside it, or if you like, the electronics from a keyboard without the keyboard itself. But the name Sound Canvas was used across a whole product range that included PC cards and all sorts of things.

Here's a summary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Sound_Canvas




Thanks DAZZ for the link, that is pretty interesting.

It's a little like looking at my kid's baby pictures!

I have a guitar synth made by Roland that fits inside a floor pedal that probably borrows a lot of the same technology from the SC.


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Me too

I just discovered this as well - looking for a great backing program

I knew a saxophonist in NY that got this and said it was great and I shrugged it off as amateur

I had a real DAW and thats what pros used

Well here I am to say Hi
I am a newby in BIAB and lovin it




You know, I wonder if some kind of campaign is in order? I think there are a lot of us out there who "word of mouth" is not working for or it is hurting more than it is helping. B/C you're right, I think BiaB has been written off by a lot of people as strictly amateur when it is anything but that. It really is a unique product in a crowded field of products that all do basically the same thing.

It DOES something!

A lot of things, actually.


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Okay let me toss my dime in about the concept of it being "amateur".

When I go up to my studio, I have an idea in my head. Only I know what that idea is, I can't explain that idea in words, but I will know it is right when I hear it. There are 2 options. I can bring in people to play and try to explain what I want, and 50 takes later have something close, or I can use BIAB and in 2 hours have it tracked, recorded, vocals layered in, supporting drums played in from a drum machine, harmonies layered on with my vocoder, supporting keyboard and guitar parts done, saved out to mp3 and sent in an email to the people who are going to play it live.

Sounds like "efficient" would be a better word to me than "amateur". And I would probably NOT have any issues playing a small club gig using it as my band and playing solos live over it. None at all. As it is, there are dozens of people doing a solo around here using iPod tracks as their band. (I saw one last month using his iPhone, and in the middle of a song the phone rang....LOL!!)

I just got this thing 3 days ago. I have 3 songs done. I also use Sonar. The learning curve with Sonar is SO HUGE, AND it requires playing the parts in again and again until you get a take with no clams, something that gets increasingly difficult as I get older and start to deteriorate physically. Arthritis in the hands is a really band thing for guitar and keyboard players, my eyes are starting to go....

I spent WEEKS learning how to use Sonar just well enough to record ONE TRACK. And in fact had to call a friend in for lessons.

For making demos to send out to players for learning purposes, this is the best thing going.

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And I would probably NOT have any issues playing a small club gig using it as my band and playing solos live over it. None at all. As it is, there are dozens of people doing a solo around here using iPod tracks as their band. (I saw one last month using his iPhone, and in the middle of a song the phone rang....LOL!!)





Down the road I would like to do just that, although not with an iPhone since I don't have one. Is the iPhone app for BiaB really that sophisticated?

Besides the ease of putting tracks together, I've really enjoyed all the instructional stuff in the PG music folder- classical guitar lessons, jazz guitar lessons, blues piano lessons...I've spent more time with those than anything else, and it feels like I've just broken out of a ten-year rut.

Also, there are like 10,000 styles in there that have really brought me back to a lot of styles I've overlooked in the past. The sheer musicality of the program is making me think about stuff for the first time since piano lessons in grade school or trumpet in the stage band in Jr. High.


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Besides the ease of putting tracks together, I've really enjoyed all the instructional stuff in the PG music folder- classical guitar lessons, jazz guitar lessons, blues piano lessons...I've spent more time with those than anything else, and it feels like I've just broken out of a ten-year rut.

Also, there are like 10,000 styles in there that have really brought me back to a lot of styles I've overlooked in the past. The sheer musicality of the program is making me think about stuff for the first time since piano lessons in grade school or trumpet in the stage band in Jr. High.





Absolutely!


BiaB and its music education stuff is worthy.

Just don't be surprised that you sonn find out just how the live cats and chicks you've been playing with can wander meter, drop beats, play at different times and a few other things that will GLARE after working out with BiaB for awhile *grin*.

Workout and practice sessions using what BiaB has to offer can improve *any* serious musician at any level IMO.

And BiaB use can put the kabosh on that ancient "teaching an old dog new tricks" saw, as well.


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Workout and practice sessions using what BiaB has to offer can improve *any* serious musician at any level IMO.

And BiaB use can put the kabosh on that ancient "teaching an old dog new tricks" saw, as well.


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That's a BIG 10-4. After 40-plus years, BIAB utterly transformed my electric guitar playing. I was even starting to make some progress on the fretless bass. Time to get back to them both.

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