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Hi Dan, thanks for these great how-to vids. Just finished part one and already picked up a few tips. Good on ya,
Cheers, J.
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Thanks. I will mention though, it's not really meant as a how-to series. I use biab and real band in specific ways as a means to an end specifically for me and how I wish to work. What I do and prefer may not be what someone else should do, given what they wish to accomplish with the software. There's some general things that could be helpful, sure. I'm glad people are picking up some things. But biab and real band are really deep programs, and they can be used to many different extents for many different purposes. I suppose it can be said that the way I use the software doesn't go very deep at all, really relying only on real track generation through a song chart. There's so much more to the software. But if it helps someone a little or spurs on new ideas, that's great. I always find it interesting and lots of fun to watch someone elses process- providing they at least have a certain skill level I'm looking for. In that spirit, this series is being created. Not much more than this- how one guy goes from beginning to end using the software in certain ways. In that spirit, I hope you enjoy looking in on my process!
Dan
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Nice explanations and I really liked the discussion of prefader volume level setting. That was really cool. Thanks.
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Hi Dan, Very clear instructions. Can't wait until the next installment  Best regards George
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Thank you for sharing your experiences. I appreciate you taking the time to offer these videos. Quite a bit can be gleaned from reading and watching other people's approach to producing music with this awesome software.
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Hi Dan,
Way to go man...
Show me more....
Very instructional.
Best regards
George
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Loving it Dan! I do lots of edits on my RT's. I totally agree with you that it makes them play your song your way instead of just playing so to speak. Great to see a similiar workflow. I do it in RB and now Tracktion. Nice tip putting a limiter on the master bus to keep that punch early on. Learning away here. Thanks again, looking forward to the next one.
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Very informative looking forward to the vocal vids
What software was used for screen capture & edit
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Increase the mouse cursor. It will make it ease to see mouse movements
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Thanks all.
Pghboemike- I'm using movie edit pro 17 for the screen captures. I'm completely new at it, hence why the quality isn't what I'd really like. I am getting better though! And the resolution has to be dumbed down a bit for uploading to youtube because of file size restrictions. If my episodes were shorter, I could get away with HD quality. But I can barely fit what I want to include within 15 minutes! And my files, even at a reduced resolution, are approaching 2 gigs. I think it's watchable enough not be be annoying. I'll check out the mouse cursor thing too.
I was watching PG demos for 2011 last night. Man, I may have to spring for it. I like 2010.5, but 2011 seems so much better in terms of stretching flexibility. We'll see.
The next episode is coming soon. I'm one away from vocals in the studio. That one should be fun!
Dan
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Great work, Dan -- much appreciated!!! You are making them (almost) faster than I can watch them.
Your method is very similar to mine, although (so far) I have not found it necessary to leave RB (even though I have both Sonar and Reaper)
Looking forward to your vocal methods. I have heard your vocals on other cuts, and you know what you are doing.
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks Daisy! I crack myself up in this one- saying 'metronone' instead of metronome! LOL! Guess that's the NY'r in me...or maybe just the moron! Haha. Go figure- I usually call it the click track! Thanks for watching!
Dan
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Hi Dan, Very good...Metronone indeed Questions... When you add the clicks to help your vocal.. How did you do that? is it easy to do? did you have a click track prepared? Best regards George
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In reaper, you can choose from the menu 'insert click source' and a new track will come up with a click on it for the entire tune. Very handy. What I did in the vid though, is copy the stick count-off from the drum track because I prefer that sound and in this case, it will be all the more musical to sing over during the vocal in those spots. What you saw me doing was pastes of the copy.
Dan
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Hi Dan, Thanks for that explanation. Now there are things I never knew that I will implement in my sessions. 1. In Band In A Box - use spare cells at the end of songs for ad-libs. 2. In Realband - generate lots of solo tracks..the more the merrier. 3. In Realband - get tracks as good as possible..i.e. volume and panning.. remember to listen  4. In Reaper - Cut and paste is your friend. 5. In Reaper - use click track for difficult vocal sections. I am looking forward to your vocal sessions and hope to learn more from you. Well Done. Best regards George
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"3. In Realband - get tracks as good as possible..i.e. volume and panning.. remember to listen "
This one I'm not entirely sure matters IF you're dropping into another daw. If a tracks volume is at -10 and hard panned to the right, will that carry over with the drag/drop? Not really sure and I haven't tried. But I make it a practice to have tracks all the way up and panned to center, both in biab before opening the song file in real band, and in real band before I drag tracks out. A little investigation would tell the story.
If you're mixing within real band, or any daw, then yes- gain and panning matter a great deal.
Dan
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Hi Dan, Yes you are right. If you take an audio track into Reaper it needs to be raw and as hot as you can have it without overdoing it. I just finished a session in Reaper (new song on the horizon) and tried out various different ways to enhance the Audio. My brain is totally fried trying to remember everything BUT I think that I am getting there. Hurry up with the vocals Dan  sorry I'm impatient. Best regards George
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Well, it wasn't easy but here's the studio/vocals episode split into two parts- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S19t_gnJg4Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRSTV-iaPnsI had a lot of film with this one but how entertaining can recording vocals and all that it takes be?! This should do. Hope you enjoy this. I'll probably record vocals for better takes, so there may be a delay now before I get to mixing all this. Dan
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