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I'm thinking I may try a Mac next time I buy.
Here's my Question.
Is there any legal way I can use BIAB on my Windows PC and a Mac at the same time? Can I buy One version over and have two different legal copies?
I know I won't be able to use PTPA on a Mac, but I can use RealBand.
Thanks in advance for any answers. I'm really interested in one of the iMacs. It's the Mac that's all one piece. For info on sound sources for the Mac I'll take this to the Mac forum.
I'm just talking running two copies at the same time here. Thanks again.
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Hi Bob,
Strange, I would think that if I bought one copy for each, which would not be converting, I would pay and own two seperate copies. Seems like I should be able to own two if I pay for two.
I have to call them next week. What if I needed a copy at home and a copy at my studio? I would buy two. Seems to be fair. they get twice the money and I wouldn't have to move it around. I wouldn't use the Hard Drive anyway. I work just with MIDI most of the time.
Thanks for the link, like I said, I'll call them. I could buy the second one for my wife. She'd love that as much as a vacuum cleaner for Valentine's Day......lol
Wayne,
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Seems like I should be able to own two if I pay for two.
You would, ...... if you buy a Windows and a Mac version. What this guy wanted was a freebie Mac version since he already had the Windows version. Two different programs. And he wanted to slam PG for not giving him the Mac program.
I didn't read your original post carefully enough. My bad.
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That's what I got out of it. He wanted two for the price of one. I don't get that mentality.
If he thought they were ripping him off, I think he would do as he pleases anyway.
The fact is, I run 3 PCs and I do only have it installed on one. I'm just thinking about trying the Mac platform in general, in another room just for the internet and one or two other things. One of them, working on songs.
I remember crossing platforms years ago. From Atari to Windows. I bought the new one. I never expected them to give me one. I'm a good customer too. The fact that they never had copy protection is a testimonial to BIAB users. I've never made a copy of any piece of software for anyone else in my life and that really made some people angry. When I managed a computer store in the late 80s, I had legal copies of everything out there from each company. At one point I had 6 licences for WordPerfect. When I needed an upgade they asked me which one? It's time you choose one. I used another licence for a Mac.
Wayne, again, thanks.
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The USB drive allows use on different machines without concern for the licensing agreement, as long as you only use the drive on one macine at a time.
A Macintosh running Bootcamp plus Windows can run the Windows version of BiaB.
I think that would be the way to go, as the two programs are different enough that it would likely prove confusing to try to run both versions of BiaB, at least to me. This way, it is the same exact version on both platforms, no searching for where controls are in this one or that one, no trying to figure out if this version does or does not do something that the other version does, etc.
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I know the Mac world has a different view, but i don't see the need to go Mac. Heck the computers are all intel these days even with Mac, and with the strides PC's have made with Win 7 it is hardly a difference anymore. We also are on the edge of Win 8. I am sure that will close the gap even more.
I know, Mac guys it is the holy grail, but really i know a few Mac folks and they have problems too, the difference is they paid twice as much for the system.
Here is my take, if you run an Intel computer, with a copy of Windows running, so you can run your windows based software, you are really running a PC. So what is the advantage? You get the relative safety of a Mac when browsing?
Hey dual boot a small area of the hard drive with Linux Ubuntu, Mint, or some other friendly distribution and call it a day. It is easy and free. If all you want is safer browsing, and e-mail Linux will give it to you and not cost you anything, but time to setup. I setup my Linux system (fedora 14, the one I am typing on now) in about 35 minutes and it connected to the net immediately, and i had e-mail in about 5 more minutes. Keep it simple and it is not difficult. I got to tell you, i can't believe just how easy this computer is to use and how trouble free it is. A year so far and nothing to fuss about, no real issues. The best part is I am able to use an older system and it acts young and fast again.
After all, there is still far more software for PC being made, and the BiaB system is better on PC still.
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...dual boot a small area of the hard drive with Linux Ubuntu, Mint, or some other friendly distribution and call it a day. It is easy and free. If all you want is safer browsing, and e-mail Linux will give it to you and not cost you anything, but time to setup. I setup my Linux system (fedora 14, the one I am typing on now) in about 35 minutes and it connected to the net immediately, and i had e-mail in about 5 more minutes. Keep it simple and it is not difficult. I got to tell you, i can't believe just how easy this computer is to use and how trouble free it is. A year so far and nothing to fuss about, no real issues. The best part is I am able to use an older system and it acts young and fast again...
Good idea!
One trick we can learn from Apple is their choice of hardware when building on an Intel platform. Duplicate these components when selecting your Linux/Windows computer, and you get some very solid hardware that is good with Windows and optimum for Linux (Apple hardware combinations are selected for maximum performance with a Unix system - Mac and Linux).
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Thank you all for your replys.
I see that using a Mac and then running the Windows Version would much better. I just forgot that the Mac version was very different and does lack features that the Windows version has.
It's also true that I could get a monster of a PC for what I would pay for the Mac I'm looking at. I mean really, what a monster I could have if I spent $1200 to $1500 on a Windows PC. I never even think of PCs in the $1500 price range anymore.
The third point made was that everyone seems to be very happy with Win7. And Windows 8 is coming soon. That's something to think about. I skipped Vista like most people, or at least many people did. I remember the early days of Vista. The Internet was jammed with stuff about Vista problems. I had the feeling that if Windows 7 didn't work well it might have been a turning point for Microsoft.
Thank you all for your advice and info. Whenever I get this in my head, which is about once every few years, I come to my sences and wonder what I was thinking. I'm just thinking now how great a PC I could get for $800 to $1000. It would be pretty sweet.
The Linux option I never tried. I use a 10 year old Pentium 4 in my back bedroom for small thing. Streaming radio at night. Just think what I could do if I turned my Core 2 Duo into a Linux machine. It's from 2007 and it's loaded.
Thanks again. It was a lot of optioned I just plain forgot.
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Hi Wayne. I don't think it was mentioned as much in this thread except by Robh, but I agree, you would be correct to state that Windows 7 has been well-received here, far better than Vista.
My main desktop PC is still a Core 2 Duo, and yes, it's destined to become a Linux box for Internet use when I build my next PC. Right now, my previous PC, a Pentium 4, is running Linux. I just keep recycling as I build each better one...
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Mac is a Unix based system, and that is the core of Linux as well. I find that the linux distros are so much better now that even two years ago, and growing each day. I love mine, and rarely miss windows. i say rarely since every once in a while there is some small thing that i have to try to figure out that windows would do easier, but overall Linux is very stable and powerful.
I would never try to make it a full time daw. but Reaper runs pretty good under wine for me.
My DAW is a dual core AMD system with Win XP sp 2 and no internet. Anything added must come in thru flash drive or DVD. I will later this year make the jump to win 7 64 and double the ram.
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Well I clearly have a lot to learn when I make a move to Linux.
First I thought I read, linux distroys, instead of linux distros, because I don't see that well anymore.
And when you said Reaper runs pretty good under wine, I thought how well Cubase ran on my Atari ST under Jack Daniels in the the late 80s.
All kidding aside, I got a virus over a year ago that would keep popping up at odd times for over a month. Then I plugged one of my USB thumb drives into my wife's PC, which has PCTools Spyware/Antivirus and a big RED warning box popped up. Somehow it had gotten onto this one Thumbdrive. Over time I had passed it around to 4 hard drives. It wasn't a bad one, but what a deal. I went through all my external Drives and my 2 Thumb drives and made sure they were all clean.
This thumb drive was brought to my wife's work to tranfer Video of some babies to a parent. She works Daycare in an infant room. The parent took it home to copy the files, because they were too large to Email and the drive got infected. Never happenned before or again. When I get hit with something I know right away and it usually takes out my system. I never seem to be infected and still running. I'm fanatical about this. A daily scan on every PC. I went over to this persons house and looked at their PC and ran a scan. It found over 800 infections.
It's amazed me that they were up and running. After I cleaned their PC I removed our Email from their address book and told them if they had to Email us, type it in. Use a post it note to remember. The guy was insulted. I block them at our server using a filter. So one more Christmas card I won't be getting. lol
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It is not impossible for linux to get a virus, just far more difficult, since Linux does not deal with .exe fils where so many are piggybacked. Also there are far more viruses written for win, and even linux.
Linux at it's core operation asks permission differently than other OS's so it is not likely to get one. Still i run clam AV in the backgound on mine.
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Mac all the way! I've not had a problem with mine for almost 4 years mixing audio on it.
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I just built a computer fr audio dual core and all, and i seemed to have worked out the issue.
The last system was build in 2001, and until two years ago it was the main house computer, and recording studio. That is ten stinking years! and all on Win XP. Ten years of music recording, mixing, playing and such no issues at all music related. Pretty good record.
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