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Hi,
I am thinking about upgrading my BIAB because I want to use more RealTracks.
It is not going to be until Thanksgiving/Christmas season, but is Everything Pak worth extra dollars over UltraPlus pak?
1) Are the lesson paks good for learning basic (pops & ballads) pianos?
2) I am not deeply into Jazz, but extra MIDIs and features with Everything pak useful?
Those of you who have Everything paks, let me know what you think about it.
Lastly, it is not possible to export in MIDI format the songs that RealTracks created, right?
Thank you.
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Hi, Mike -
First off, the summer sale just ended, so I would actually recommend waiting until Christmas time, rather than Thanksgiving, because PGMusic usually has another sale then and you can save a good bit of money. And PGMusic generally releases the new version around that time, as well.
You didn't say which version you were upgrading from. However, the only differences between the UltraPlus and the Everything is the inclusion of the lessons and videos. Depending on the version you currently you, you may actually have many of the videos. The EverythingPak also comes with two additional soloists, which, again, depending on the version you currently have, you might already have them (or not).
I prefer the EverythingPak, but the UltraPlusPak gets you all the styles (MIDI and Real), all the RealDrums, and all the RealTracks. The program itself is the same in both versions, so you don't lose any features with the UltraPlusPak.
Even though you are not into Jazz, you may find you might still like to use jazz styles now and then (depending on the song). And with the hybrid style maker, you may find you like a certain part in a jazz style that you can import into another styles to create your own "band".
You can't export the RealTracks into MIDI per-se, but some of them have notation associated with the RealTracks. You can get that notation into MIDI, but it won't sound like the RealTracks (it won't have all the articulations, bends, slides, etc that the person actually playing on the RealTracks does). But if you just want the notes to work on it yourself, you can definitely see that for many of the RealTracks.
And of course, when you have questions, ask at the forum here and many folks are happy to help you.
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I haven't got the everything just the ultra plus pak, but on reading whats in the everything pak I personally wouldn't buy it becausde it costs considerably more to buy and to upgrade compared to the ultra plus pak, see this thread http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=327001&an=0&page=1#Post327001A lot of the tutorial vides contained on the everything pak are probably viewable on the pg site anyways. As everything costs considerably more outside the sales with PG if I was you I would wait now until Christmas time and save yourself many $$$$ musiclover
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I had to stop at 2008 but I'm going to wait for the end of the year sale. Time to move up.
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I'm going for the everything pak when the next sale comes. It's now 399 for my upgrade. Do you know what the sale price was? Just trying to get a ballpark figure when it's time. I'll be buying the same one anyways. I'm coming from 2008. thanks
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I don't remember, but I'm doing the same thing when the Christmas sale comes, upgrading from 2009 version.
Wayne,
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If I remember correctly, it was about 379 or 399 for the 2010 edition.
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right now the everything pak is 399, the sale price should be lower. thats what it would be for me. thats the upgade for 2009 and under. I was just wondering how much they reduce it for the sale. I hope they give it another good shot in the arm. for that money I won't be buying for awhile. I just don't have the money. but I'll be up to date and have everything. that will be cool.
I can't wait for the sale, I mean I will but I wish it was here now and I had all the money now.
Reds and Blues.
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jford,
Sounds like I don't miss match with UltraPlus. As I stated I am not into
Jazz, so all the jazz material that come with UltraPlus should be
more than enough for me.
It is good to know that RealTracks can be converted into MIDI so that I
can study the notes, or adjust in DAW. Too bad it would lose articulations (maybe not?).
I wonder how these were recorded in the first place. Regular instruments
miked, and someone transcribed into MIDI or just MIDI instruments to
start out with?
The latter seems to be less work... Then the articulation should be there.
Thanks!!
musiclover,
I did some research on Christmas sale in the past. The price difference
is $20. Is it a lot or not, I don't know.
Maybe someone else can give us some insight.
Thanks!!
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My understanding is that they were transcribed after the fact, but I don't know that for sure.
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The MIDI used for Notation of the RealTracks with underscore of the Trackname are not performance MIDI diles. The data is just there to print the notes. Therefore the subtle nuances and such are not going to be a part of the resulting MIDI. However, you might try using some that way and you be the judge of the end result.
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Now finally the time has come for upgrade!
I read other posts and got a feeling that most people purchase UltraPlus instead of Everything, although maybe they already have older Everything pack.
The price difference is $20 between the two, and I am almost ready to purchase UltraPlus.
Also, surprised to see many purchase $25 pack as well. Was it worth it?
Looking at the list, 18-20 is already included in UltraPlus pack, so I'm interested in 2 "5-hour lick lessons". Please let me know your reviews on them.
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Hi,
I got my Audiophile 2011.5 late, around Oct. If I had known PG release cycle style, I would have waited for 2012.
2012 have many new features that I like (individual vst / track, etc..).
Anyway, being really short of cash, I was thinking of downgrading.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, the difference of Everything or UltraPlus pack is the Video/Lesson.. and since I have the Audiophile 2011.5 (and I didn't really dig in yet to all the Video/Lesson yet) I will not requires those. Also may not fully utilize the WAV quality yet at the moment.
So,
1) At what upgrade (downgrade) price I'm looking at ? 159/= ?
2) I didn't save a lot right, if it's 159/= ? hmm...
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I normally get the ultra plus pak, because in the past I already got some of the extra content that comes with the everything pak.
However, this year I decided to go with the everything Pak specifically because of the video tutorials. I figure that some of the new features (like loops) will require a visual explanation. I've hit an age where I don't understand written instructions as well as I used to. I find the videos to be EXTREMELY useful, and well worth the extra few bucks it costs to get them.
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However, this year I decided to go with the everything Pak specifically because of the video tutorials. I figure that some of the new features (like loops) will require a visual explanation.
that's the issue for me
will the videos included with the everything pack include 2012's new features? either now or future download after they're produced
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will the videos included with the everything pack include 2012's new features? either now or future download after they're produced
I'm hoping so. If not, I'm only out $20. That's already not the worst thing that will happen to me today.
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Quote:
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However, this year I decided to go with the everything Pak specifically because of the video tutorials. I figure that some of the new features (like loops) will require a visual explanation.
that's the issue for me
will the videos included with the everything pack include 2012's new features? either now or future download after they're produced
I belive the 2012 new feature video comes with this. I purchased this but the bonus pack download has a mistake that it does not install the video or the extra RealTracks. I spoke with Will at PG about it and he also confirmed this. They will fix it.
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