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#128934 09/13/11 12:47 PM
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Why is it that when I want a 2 bar ending and say "start the ending 2 bars early" it never works? The end always comes 2 bars later than I want.


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I can't figure it out either. What might be nice is a video tutorial on endings


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I zeem to recall that the "4 bar Ending" setting in the Song Settings dialog had something to do with it working that way, but its been awhile since I had to force an early two-bar ending. Check that out, though, Rightclick on the bar and choose Song Settings.

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I get the same results if I have the "4 Bar Ending" selected or not.


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Hi Petimar,

Does your song have more than 1 chorus? If you try just 1 chorus, does the ending start 2 bars early?


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All of my tunes have multiple choruses. I'll try one and see what happens. I'll also try MIDI and real tracks and report back.


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I'd like to attach two BIAB files to illustrate this problem (probably just I don't know how to use the 2 bar ending feature!!). Can I attach a file to my post?


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Post attachments are not possible, but you can attach the Band-in-a-Box song files to an email and send it to:

support@pgmusic.com


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I'd like to attach two BIAB files to illustrate this problem (probably just I don't know how to use the 2 bar ending feature!!). Can I attach a file to my post?




Blake gave you a good option, but you certainly can attach any file or picture to a post. You need to have a hosting site like your own webpage to upload the files to then you simply use the feature in the posting to attach or insert a link or actual picture - but wait you do have a website...


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OK these files are available at

http://www.yousendit.com/download/bHlDb2VGaTFubHgzZUE9PQ

One file is real tracks, one MIDI. I get the same result in both.


What I want is the ending played in bars 9 and 10 to play in bars 7 and 8. Seems to me the checked "Start the ending 2 bars early" should accomplish this, but no.

If anyone could tell me what I'm doing wrong, I'd appreciate it. I have a few hundred Jazz files where I'd like this to happen.


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Tried it out and it doesn't seem to work with a tag ending; however, if you unfold the song and take out the tag, the "start 2 bars early" works. Sounds like a bug to me. I'd send PGMusic an email to support at pgmusic dot com and reference this thread, and maybe it will be fixed in the next patch.


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I can't figure it out either. What might be nice is a video tutorial on endings




George Wixon has tutorials on endings on his site. Some of you may already know of his site, but I find it very useful..

http://www.gwixon.com/

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Hi Petimar,

I looked at your examples. In the song settings if you change the "tag ends after bar #8" to "tag ends after bar #6" does that give you what you are looking for? I think that the tag settings have precedence over the the start ending 2 bars early setting so the ending can't begin before the end of tag.

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Mostly I use BIAB for Jazz and Bluegrass improv practice.

Usually I have written a beginning chorus (A), several choruses of improv (B), an ending chorus (A) and then the tag. Doing this means writing an arrangement straight through is not an option.


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The key here is the tag. You used the term "tag" but the full term is "tag ending". It's already an ending so you can't add another ending to it. I think Ed has the right idea, you have to play with the last bars of the tag itself to get it to end like you want.

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