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Why is it that when I want a 2 bar ending and say "start the ending 2 bars early" it never works? The end always comes 2 bars later than I want.
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I can't figure it out either. What might be nice is a video tutorial on endings
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I zeem to recall that the "4 bar Ending" setting in the Song Settings dialog had something to do with it working that way, but its been awhile since I had to force an early two-bar ending. Check that out, though, Rightclick on the bar and choose Song Settings.
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I get the same results if I have the "4 Bar Ending" selected or not.
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Hi Petimar,
Does your song have more than 1 chorus? If you try just 1 chorus, does the ending start 2 bars early?
Blake
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All of my tunes have multiple choruses. I'll try one and see what happens. I'll also try MIDI and real tracks and report back.
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I'd like to attach two BIAB files to illustrate this problem (probably just I don't know how to use the 2 bar ending feature!!). Can I attach a file to my post?
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Post attachments are not possible, but you can attach the Band-in-a-Box song files to an email and send it to: support@pgmusic.com
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I'd like to attach two BIAB files to illustrate this problem (probably just I don't know how to use the 2 bar ending feature!!). Can I attach a file to my post?
Blake gave you a good option, but you certainly can attach any file or picture to a post. You need to have a hosting site like your own webpage to upload the files to then you simply use the feature in the posting to attach or insert a link or actual picture - but wait you do have a website... 
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OK these files are available at http://www.yousendit.com/download/bHlDb2VGaTFubHgzZUE9PQ One file is real tracks, one MIDI. I get the same result in both. What I want is the ending played in bars 9 and 10 to play in bars 7 and 8. Seems to me the checked "Start the ending 2 bars early" should accomplish this, but no. If anyone could tell me what I'm doing wrong, I'd appreciate it. I have a few hundred Jazz files where I'd like this to happen.
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Tried it out and it doesn't seem to work with a tag ending; however, if you unfold the song and take out the tag, the "start 2 bars early" works. Sounds like a bug to me. I'd send PGMusic an email to support at pgmusic dot com and reference this thread, and maybe it will be fixed in the next patch.
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Quote:
I can't figure it out either. What might be nice is a video tutorial on endings
George Wixon has tutorials on endings on his site. Some of you may already know of his site, but I find it very useful..
http://www.gwixon.com/
Last edited by johnnyo34; 09/15/11 07:46 PM.
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Hi Petimar,
I looked at your examples. In the song settings if you change the "tag ends after bar #8" to "tag ends after bar #6" does that give you what you are looking for? I think that the tag settings have precedence over the the start ending 2 bars early setting so the ending can't begin before the end of tag.
Regards,
Ed
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Mostly I use BIAB for Jazz and Bluegrass improv practice.
Usually I have written a beginning chorus (A), several choruses of improv (B), an ending chorus (A) and then the tag. Doing this means writing an arrangement straight through is not an option.
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The key here is the tag. You used the term "tag" but the full term is "tag ending". It's already an ending so you can't add another ending to it. I think Ed has the right idea, you have to play with the last bars of the tag itself to get it to end like you want.
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