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Jazz waltz? #142532 12/21/11 02:19 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 113 Vught, The Netherlands D davehorne OP Apprentice
OP davehorne Apprentice D Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 113 Vught, The Netherlands	I filtered Styles using jazz waltz and turned up two Styles, JWALTZP.STY and _JWALTZG.STY. For my money when I ask a drummer to play a jazz waltz I expect to hear something on the and of 1. What I heard here was on beat 2. How is a jazz waltz generally defined from a drummer's point of view? Thanks, DH Dave Horne - The Netherlands http://members.home.nl/davehorne/ Band-in-a-Box 2015 MegaPAK Upgrade with RealBand

Re: Jazz waltz? davehorne #142533 12/21/11 02:42 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,600 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,600 Australia	Hi Dave, I'm not a drummer, but I've heard jazz waltzes played in a heap of different ways. I guess that like anything musical, the end result is always what sounds right for the given circumstances. I also imagine that at different periods in time, different patterns have prevailed. Below is a link to some notation for Jazz Waltzes. I'm sure if you did a search, a great deal more notation can be found. http://www.studydrums.com/jzwalz01.html For what it's worth, I had a look in the Realdrum Picker and the following list of Jazz Waltzes are available as Realdrums. Since the drummers playing the above tracks are all top notch, highly respected professionals, I'd be guided by what they do. Regards, Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2026 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Jazz waltz? Noel96 #142534 12/21/11 02:54 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,844 Pensacola, Florida jford Veteran
jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,844 Pensacola, Florida	When I filter on Jazz Waltz, I get a lot more than just two hits and see the following list: Which BIAB package do you have; if it is only the basic Pro version, there aren't a lot of styles there to choose from? John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)

Re: Jazz waltz? jford #142535 12/21/11 03:26 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 113 Vught, The Netherlands D davehorne OP Apprentice
OP davehorne Apprentice D Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 113 Vught, The Netherlands	I should add I only considered Real Drums in my list, that will give just two Styles, the ones I mentioned. (When I remove Real from the filter, I have a very long list of Styles.) In all the years I've been playing I expect to hear (and please realize I'm not a drummer), something on one, on the and of one, and the downbeat of three with an accent on the and of one. Just those three beats will provide a jazz waltz feeling. I'm using the 2012 MegaPack. Dave Horne - The Netherlands http://members.home.nl/davehorne/ Band-in-a-Box 2015 MegaPAK Upgrade with RealBand

Re: Jazz waltz? davehorne #142536 12/21/11 07:47 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,844 Pensacola, Florida	Hi, Dave - You didn't mention that in your first post. Have you tried some of the variations of RealDrums, as suggested by Noel? I haven't had a chance to listen closely, yet. Maybe the difference is normal practice between each side of the Atlantic. Just a thought. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)

Re: Jazz waltz? jford #142537 12/21/11 08:14 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 581 MitchC Journeyman
MitchC Journeyman Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 581	Dave, No offense, but have you considered another product ? Sounds like you're just not happy with PG Music's offering to me ? Hire some guys to do exactly what you have in mind ? That's the way it's always been done prior to BIAB / Real Band. BIAB/RealBand stuff Orig. tunes (players) 'BIG HAIR' days

Re: Jazz waltz? MitchC #142538 12/22/11 02:29 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 113 Vught, The Netherlands D davehorne OP Apprentice
OP davehorne Apprentice D Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 113 Vught, The Netherlands	Mitch, no offense taken. I've made my living solely from playing and playing with live musicians ... that's why I'm amazed I don't hear an accent on the and-of-one. That to me is the essence of a jazz waltz ... or maybe I've just worked with the wrong drummers. Dave Horne - The Netherlands http://members.home.nl/davehorne/ Band-in-a-Box 2015 MegaPAK Upgrade with RealBand

Re: Jazz waltz? davehorne #142539 12/22/11 02:20 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 15,976 PeterGannon PG Music Staff
PeterGannon PG Music Staff Joined: May 2000 Posts: 15,976	>>> For my money when I ask a drummer to play a jazz waltz I expect to hear something on the and of 1. What I heard here was on beat 2. I haven't heard jazz waltz drummers playing on the and of 1 like that. For example, here are the first 2 that I found on youtube, and they don't do it. (the comping instruments (guitar,piano) sometimes play on the and of 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbu7GxUCApg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi4G6UmYK9U Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.

Re: Jazz waltz? PeterGannon #142540 12/22/11 03:20 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 824 REDLAND BAY, Qld., AUSTRALIA Graham Martin Expert
Graham Martin Expert Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 824 REDLAND BAY, Qld., AUSTRALIA	I am not sure what is meant by 'something'. I have not heard the accent on the 'and of 1' as the regular rhythm, but it is a common place to place an irregular stress, say at the end of a musical phrase - sometimes more often than that. Joe Morello does it a lot with Brubeck and Dave himself is often there with his piano rhythm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9qgI95n6rM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eimKbIdHU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43T0HdVNOD8&feature=related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJfzTgYWfPw&feature=related To my mind, Brubeck was the jazz Waltz King but I think that accent is more on the 'a' of 'and-a'. I suppose it depends on the jazz era with which you are familiar and it may be a dead give away on one's age. Vale Joe Morello, one of the great jazz drummers, who died earlier this year. Grah Jive Talk "Don't worry baby, they'll swing their arses off."

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