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Sandra, I've listened to your sample 4 times now. And it's so obvious that you can carry a tune, so that's good -- but don't fear that your voice lacks a certain "perfection" of sorts. You might just need to embrace the "Übung macht den Meister" concept when it comes to honing your voice, and the impression you want to make, vocal coach or not. I retrieved some youtube examples of female singers who you might want to listen to. (I hope this is okay with the rules & regs?) Karen Carpenter's lone-ish vocal for "Masquerade" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKy77tpT_doThe full album version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljWyIKyua8cFiona Apple, Extraordinary machine recorded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T14ux2k7rk0Fiona singing it live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsMZkCLxfkM&feature=relatedPhoebe Snow singing Harpo's Blues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SESmndcKI0Janis Ian has a higher register than you, but this might be illustrative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMUz2TNMvL0&feature=relatedBasia sings higher & lower, instructive vocals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMmY70RPI24Tracy Chapman sings Fast Car live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orv_F2HV4gkNorah Jones' Cold Cold Heart, live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g35zS1tVO3o... and Come Away with Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1V5Wk9gb4U These female singers may not represent your style, but hearing their takes on those tunes might offer something in the way of practice. Cheers, Christa
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Sandra, you have a very unique voice (don't read great) and it might be best and easiest to capitalize on that uniqueness rather than to concentrate on a major voice make-over. I heard Janis Joplin (as well as Louis Armstrong) in your voice and they did passably well, commercially speaking.
I, too, sensed you "poop out" toward the end. Correcting that will only come with time and breath/diaphragm control. You always have your voice with you so sing constantly. You likely have music going through your mind constantly judging from your mastery of the guitar. Now just "voice" those mental melodies any time of day or night.
Breath/diaphragm control can be practiced by singing into a lighted candle. You can see cause and effect of various diaphragm controls. Great practice for any singer. Try different volumes without blowing out the candle. Also excellent for controlling plosives.
All the best to you.
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Sandra, I have a bit of a different take on your voice. I think it's great but for different reasons. I also think you have something that others have lost in their quest for recording contracts and all that pwerfection. It's hard to express but you have the soul that comes out in your singing.Very few ever have that. Look back on the different groups like the Kinks and you find singers that wanted to create something new. There was a freshness in their voices that can't be found today. Look at Janis Joplin's career. You can hear the pain in her songs, same with Joe Cocker,and 99% of the early rock & roll as well as the Blues singers of the Southern USA. I would PAY to see you sing, but the plane tickets a bit of an issue. My advice is let it all out, you have something to say, push your way to the front and say it. It's about you creating images with your voice that we all experience and you can voice those feeling for us, you have it, use it. Do it, I would but I can't. Wyndham
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I have listened then re-listened. I think that I have identified that voice...Marlene Dietrich. She sang cabaret-style during the 1940s war years. That is something worthy of striving to attain.
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Sandra,
As most have stated - sing away. Tune down 1/2 to a full step, it will make a world of difference particularly on those higher 'afternoon' phrase enders. Right now, you are straining to hit the last note on 'noon' - Ask your coach how to 'open up' on those notes - right now, I picture your chin extending and your head tipping back on that note. Try to practice keeping the chin in lower.
For the purpose of the couple of songs either live or on a CD, it will not bring down the quality - it will be something that will entertain and break up the monotony of a solid show of wordless gypsy jazz. I once got to hear John Jorgensn live, about 15 meters from the stage, and even though he is a master, it got to be quite boring after 4 or 5 songs. The singing and lyrics put an entirely different feeling into gypsy jazz. Make sure the lyrics tell a story. The history of popular music is ripe with examples of singers much much worse than your voice, but they were great storytellers. One could argue that nearly the whole of country music singers, with some rare exceptions, actually have terrible technique, but again they are great storytellers. Work on your facial expressions, gestures, interaction with the nearby audience members, etc. just as much as you work on what little is left for vocal technique. Your audience will love it. Most of all, have fun - that will shine through above all.
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What Scott said! Develop your image. I tell about Streisand's nose job. That minor flaw was "Barbara" and gave her "character!" Don't polish ALL the rough edges.
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You know, Don, I told her that very thing in a private message. Marlene Dietrich was SMOOOOOOKIN' hot in her time. The sultry, seductive kind of voice....
I think she sings just fine. All about picking music that suits the voice rather than trying to make a voice fit the music.
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Eddie, GMTA! Great Minds Think Alike.
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