|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81 |
hi gang
was wondering if i could get some input on a song that's giving me some problems right now.
this is a song that was created and saved as a type o midi.
it only has 4 tracks to it trk 4 bass guitar...trk 5 brass....trk 6 piano...trk 10 drums standard kit.
the problem i'm having is...i can hear and view all tracks in either BIAB or Real band...but when i save...i'm saving as a type 1 midi file....and when i play it on my yamaha key board...
only the count i put in on the drum track....the bass line and drums play...
the brass and piano are not saving and playing on the keyboard...
any thought's on this one..
thanks cajun
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,277
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,277 |
Hi cajun,
Are the brass and piano tracks not saving or are they saved but not playing on the keyboard?
If they are not saving they may be muted thus they are not included in the save. You may also want to try putting the piano on channel 3 and the brass on channel 7 and see if that helps. You mentioned tracks but what are the midi channels associated with those tracks?
If the tracks are indeed saved make sure the saved track midi channels match your keyboard midi channels. If they do then check the tracks for CC numbers 7 and 11. These CC numbers control midi volume.
Let us know how you make out. Plus if this didn’t help a little more information would be a great help.
I got banned from Weight Watchers for dropping a bag of M&Ms on the floor.
It was the best game of Hungry Hippos I've ever seen!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81 |
Mario
thanks for the response ,yes the tracks are saved to the song and will generate and play in
BIAB and play in Real band...
but when i save the song as a type 1 midi.....it will only play the stick count i added
the drum track which is track 10 and the bass track which is track 4
the brass track is on track 5 and the brass track is on track 6....these are the track numbers as it shows from the melody window and the 16 track sequencer section..
now just thinking here what if in the preference section under channels its listed different from the sequence section in BIAB will this effect it?...because i think those numbers may be different..
thanks
cajun
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839 |
Cajun,
I don't know if this will help ...
When you're in BIAB, have you used Realtracks for Piano, Guitar, etc? If you so, Realtracks are not meant to save as MIDI. To get a MIDI file, it's necessary to use a fully MIDI style.
Out of curiosity, what style are you using?
Just a thought.
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,277
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,277 |
Quote:
Cajun,
I don't know if this will help ...
When you're in BIAB, have you used Realtracks for Piano, Guitar, etc? If you so, Realtracks are not meant to save as MIDI. To get the a MIDI file, it's necessary to use a fully MIDI style.
Out of curiosity, what style are you using?
Just a thought.
Noel
A very good thought Noel!
I got banned from Weight Watchers for dropping a bag of M&Ms on the floor.
It was the best game of Hungry Hippos I've ever seen!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81 |
the style thats showing in the style box is...X MILESFNK MILES SLOW FUNK FUSION
if this is whats wrong...how do i get midi styles to load in there?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81 |
i don't think this style was enabled while play back
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839 |
Cajun, The "X" indicates that the style is disabled. This would be the problem. What you'd be hearing on playback is an audio recording.  To enable the style, right click on the style name and activate "Style enabled". You may need to mute your audio though as there will be multiple sounds playing and these may not fit together too well. Miles Slow Funk Fusion is a MIDI style. Thus, if you enable the style, generate the tracks, it should then be possible to save it as a MIDI file. Regards, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81 |
Noel
i enabled the style and saved to type 1 midi....when i play it in my keyboard (yamaha)
i get a different drum beat thats weird sounding to the midi somewhat...
but the piano and brass parts are still missing....i can understand why my bass midi track's and drums will save....but the piano and brass are gone....but yet they play in BIAB and Realband playbacks...
where would i find the CC values that mario mentioned?...i'm ready to check that out..
also something worth mentioning and i don't know if this matters...but on this midi
it start's with a piano introduction of about 3 grids ...i don't know if one grid is a bar or not so i'll call it 3 grids in piano roll...
my stick count go's to grid 1A....then 3 grids or bars of piano introduction....then bass
drums and brass come in...
i was reading in the manuel about lead in's....would this be considered a lead in the 3 grid piano part or 3 bars...and adjustments must be made for it?
cajun
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839 |
Cajun,
Have you tred opening the MIDI file in Windows to see if it works? We need to know if the problem is in the file itself or in the way that the Yamaha interprets it.
Go to the MIDI file and double click on it. It will probably open in Media player. Let us know what happens.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81 |
i got it to play in the keyboard guy's...i swapped the tracks around as mario sugjusted i also changed patch numbers in preference under channel button.
then put everything on one midi track and saved to a type o...and it played in the keyboard
so i'm chalking it up to this midi just couldn't be saved under a type 1 format
thanks for the help guy's
cajun
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Yamaha uses a different MIDI patch numbering system.
Whereas most synths use the Roland "one based" system, where the Grand Piano is 001 and goes thru to 128 at the last instrument, Yamaha is "zero based" and the Grand Piano is 000 with the last instrument being 127.
This has nothing to do with "Type 1" or "Type 0" MIDI files. Type 1 is multitracked, Type 0 saves all the tracks on one track.
Your Yamaha may also use a different MIDI channel for drums than channel 10, although that is a rather older thing. Likely the drums sounded weird because you were attempting to play back a Roland one based file on the Yamaha's zero based synth.
The manual for your keyboard will tell you where the patches start and stop. Yamaha only made a small handful of keyboards that had the "GM" sticker on them and would work with one based.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 81 |
So it sounds like i would be better off saving my work to a type zero format for the yamaha board and not have to rechannel everything to a single channel in the melody window
Right?...thats what i did the last one...rechanneled everything to channel 4 and it worked..
weird how some can be saved to a type one in this yamaha mm6 board and play and others won't....oh well at least i gained some ground....i've been fighting to get that song to play for almost two weeks now...lol....i'm glad it works now.
cajun
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,398
Posts778,681
Members39,648
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean