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I purchased BIAB Pro 2012 and it came along with Real Band and I suppose some Real Tracks, as I used some in a song already. But, the learning curve on this tool is steep, hey?
Is there any good video or instructions that explain how BIAB, Real Band, and Real Tracks all work? I am basically lost. I want to buy some more Real Tracks, but I am not spending another penny until I understand the basic set up first.
Thanks.
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Hi jptjptjpt Welcome to the forums  The learning curve is indeed steep. I remember when I first got BIAB, I couldn't believe how hard it all seemed. I persevered and after about a week, I started to see how it all worked. It was WELL WORTH THE EFFORT. The product is brilliant. If you scroll down to the bottom of the following webpage, you'll find some video archives that will help. http://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htmI suggest starting with "Welcome to Band In A Box" followed by the "Quickstart Tutorial". There are also a number of video clips on Youtube that are useful. Hope this helps, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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It's overwhelming at first, simply because there are so many features and it can do so much. But it's actually a very easy program to use - much easier than some other musical apps that I have. Hang in there, take it a little at a time, and before you know it you'll be cranking out some wonderful music.
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Thanks for tips, links, and support. I appreciate it and I need it.
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Hi, jptjptjpt .......(or may I call you "jp"?!)  Welcome to the forum. Once you've had a look at a couple of the videos, you'll find you'll proceed very quickly....it really is intuitive. Regards, Joe G.
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Most things worth doing or learning are difficult at first, that's why they are great to do. Like most software there are 100 features of which most people learn and use 25 or so, the other features don't apply to how they use the software. I use BIAB more than any other music software and there are many parts of it that I don't need for what I want to do with it, practice and perform.
I remember when I first started to use Cubase, huge learning curve, but now when I look at it, it seems very straight forward and easy to use (again for what I do with it).
Stick with it, we assume you play an instrument, learning that was the tough part, using BIAB will be a snap cause musicians are smart dudes.
One huge advantage we have here is this forum, which for my money is the best and most helpful forum on the internet, and we have many really knowledgeable participants that give a lot of help with good humor and patience.
Here is a tip, pay particular attention to any of Mac's posts. He is the forum godfather here and really know his stuff. Helped me a lot when I was a newbie.
G
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Welcome to the forum . . . regarding a "steep" learning curve, well it is what you make of it. I say this because it really depends on what you want to get out of BIAB (and the others I am sure) as to how steep the learning curve really is. For instance my use is 99.99% live backing tracks, so my learning curve is not very steep at all . . . choose style, choose instruments, set tempo and hit play. Of course there are adjustments and refinements with each of these three steps, but for my use that is basically it. (For my English writing purist friends . . . I know that was a preposition ending that last sentence and I don't care  ) Now for me the steep curve comes into play when you start exploring everything each of these programs can do, and I am nowhere near any of my fellow forum members in that respect. And even though I may never be, I know I can come here anytime day or night and ask a question or do some research to find answers to all of my questions, as this is a very helpful place with a lot of goo folks. Welcome again,
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Preposition doesn't bother me, Danny, but what are "goo" folks.
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Yeh, Danny, New word?? heh heh..
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Preposition doesn't bother me, Danny, but what are "goo" folks.
These are the folks who make the Goo Goo Candy Bar, a major sponsor for the Grand Ole Opry and are now a few members of this forum (hence the music connection) . . . . OK YOU GOT ME! 
Later,
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jtpjpjpt. How to pronounce that...jetptchpechtrptsejetputtchtpttstt&*#@*%*!shh... Oh, the heck with it.
Give is a first name.
Oh yeah, welcome to the forum, it's not quite as hard as it looks. Really.
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Thanks everyone. It all started clicking today. I bought some more Real Tracks and it has really moved along nicely.
But there still remain problems. For example, I export my wav files to Mixcraft 5 for mixing. But when I save them, I don't seem to have a choice as to what folder I save them in. I then have to go searching for them in the BIAB files. I am getting a little better at finding them, but still...
Thanks everyone. I'll keep checking in.
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Take a look at RB, you can open BiaB files directly there, and there is no reason to import them. You might find all you need there.
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Yes, I am even finding my wav files easier after a few trys.
I love BIAB!
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If you use the .wav Export Folder Button in the Main BiaB Interface, in the "Render To Audio File" window, at the Top on the Right there is a "Choose" button. Click on that & select where you want the Rendered files to go to.
This is covered in Chapter 11, Page 259 of the Manual, at least in the 2011 manual....
Hope this helps!
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Yes, I am even finding my wav files easier after a few trys.
What I do is keep each song in its own folder. That way, the wav files are written to the song's folder and everything is in one location.
Regards,
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I do what Noel does when I work in SONAR.
I haven't found it necessary to do so in BIAB (yet) because I take files into SONAR for 'finishing'. However, in BIAB, I have tons of folders under two main folders, for Originals and Arrangements (in other words, whether I wrote it or not). Then under Arrangements, there are lots of folders for the work of colleagues and the work for clients. Under Originals, there are folders for Working On This, Finished but Unrecorded, and each CD project I've done. Stuff like that.
One thing you learn in this business (or any business) is that good filing systems are critical, along with good backup regimens.
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And jpjp... it looks like you purchased the basic package... It gets quite expensive if you keep buying more realtracks individually... If you can wait, there is a smoking hot sale EVERY December where you can upgrade to the next year's version and get the UltraPAK Hard Drive(that comes with EVERYTHING!!!) for peanuts literally (i.e $139.00-ish). That's the only way to do it if you ask me. I know most here go for it once a year....
Good Luck.
PS: I am waiting to see when MAC will chime in and tell us his usual wise words abot BIAB leaning curve... LOL
PPS: There is also a mid-year sale... but I don't find them as good as the ones in December... so if you can wait... then wait...
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By now you guys should be able to say it for me!
And it looks like you have...
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Hi all,
I see you guys are using the exporting WAV file features pretty well, but no one has mentioned anything about the programs quick drag and drop exporting WAV features, so here's a quick guide to that shortcut. Enjoy!
A DRAG AND DROP WAV EXPORT TUTORIAL by Ricardo
A quick and easy way of exporting your WAV files from you arrangement without having to deal with saving and searching is to use our drag and drop features.
Essentially, the drag and drop works by dragging any part of your song (i.e your bass track, or piano track per say) into the box in the top left corner labelled "Drop". After dropping the track, the program should take a second or two to render the file(s) then change color depending on your version of Band-in-a-Box. After the color change you can just drag the "Drop" box to any other program or to your desktop to drop the WAV file at your place of choice.
Example: if you drag then drop the box on your desktop you get the WAV file you made in the box created on your desktop. If you drop the box on an empty track on RealBand, or some other DAW, you get that track filled with whatever WAV information you put on the "Drop" box.
A tip for exporting your whole arrangement as WAV quickly is to simply drag the "Combo" track onto the "Drop" box which puts all your tracks in WAV format on the box. Then drag the box to your destination and voila!
Hope this helps!
Regards,
Ricardo
*EDIT* Had to change a couple of spelling mistakes is all, still too early over here, haha.
Last edited by Ricardo - PG Music Inc.; 06/14/12 08:19 AM.
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 60 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
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2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
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What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
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