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Peter & All:
There are a couple of us out here busting our buttooties to make PG Music products more accessible to sight impaired folks all over the world. Heretofore, Jaws for Windows was the only screenreader to have a scripting language. Others have now gotten into the game, which means more blind & severely sight-impaired folks can now have access to your products. What it also means is that the 2 of us writing scripts are gonna have to work at least doubly hard, & we now just fixed the previous scripts that had been broken by changes in later versions of the software. It does seem in all fairness that a sight-impaired person really should be on your beta testing team. The 2 of us writing scripts do so on a volunteer basis. It's tough that we have to buy the software we're scripting then spend hours scripting it besides. I can assure you sight-impaired folks are in fact buying your products, & it's primarily due to our efforts toward making the software accessible that they are. Obviously if we're apprised of the changes in advance, we can script them & make the software accessible as soon as it hits the market. & now not only do we have a couple additional screenreaders entering the areana, for which scripts for your products will be needed, but it looks as though we need to devote some efforts toward RealBand. For u & for us, it really seems like it'd be a fair thing to do to allow the scripters of your products on your beta team.
Please consider the request, & thanks for your attention. I will provide contact details privately on request.
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Peter, I know how busy you folks must be up there, but this one also needs attention.
Was thinking of perhaps generating an all-text BB overlay that just lists the controls and buttons in some kind of mission-critical order or perhaps will Shift-Tab or Ctrl-Tab from smaller text window to text window with the text controls grouped according to usage. Nothing fancy needed, actually, likely ASCII could do do it.
At the same time, this could perhaps be used to kill two birds with one stone and allow for aliasing control features in MIDI or ASCII or keyboard type commands for those wanting to use hardware controllers with BIAB, too. Maybe.
At any rate, I know several sight impaired songwriters and musicians who are not able to use BIAB using the JAWS program, going back as far as 7 to 10 years ago.
If I can be of any help, Peter, I'll do what I can.
--Mac
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There are some simple things which the developers of BIAB could do in order to make BIAB work better with screen readers and/or make it easier for us scripters to enable screen readers to work more seamlessly with BIAB.
These include such things as:
- Following Windows keystroke coventions a bit better - As I've described in previous posts, most places in BIAB where there are radio buttons, BIAB does not follow the expected behavior. This has been difficult to overcome even by scripting BIAB.
- Often BIAB has many child windows within a main window. It would be easier to script if these windows had unique names which didn't change as the user interacted with the windows.
- It is difficult to obtain status information such as volume panning, etc. of instruments. One method for dealing with this, as MAC suggests, is to have this info easily accessible in a text list or table. For Sonar, The CAkewalk folks added and invisible "Access" window which contains a lot of status info. Sighted users couldnt see this, but the screen readers could grab this info and feed it back to the user and/or take appropriate action based on changes.
I'm sure there are other ideas, some simple and some not so simple, for addressing these issues. The problem with beta testing is that by the time a revision is ready to beta test there is often too much code and/or structure which is "frozen" to make meaningful and helpful changes.
Anyway, hopefully someone out there in BIAB land is listening and can begin incorporating needed modifications into these products and/or at least starting to follow Windows coding, structure and keystrokes coventions a bit more closely as new code is developed.
Thanks, Mac, for your support.
-- Pete (the other JAWS scripter)
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