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when loading a BB tune that has RealDrums pls, do provide at least the option of picking up the midi drums as well.
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Ditto  +1 And maybe just mute the MIDI drums (which we can then later unmute), but the MIDI drum arrangements would be there. There may be parts in the MIDI drums that we want to use to augment the RealDrums, which is easy enough to filter out the parts you want using the piano roll editor (as Mac has explained how to do numerous times).
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yep, that's exactly what I try to do, but also if I export out to Reaper, I may then want to use the midi drums to trigger BFD and get the better drum mixing flexibility. This brings me to this: I might be cool to have the midi drums not be just the exact RealDrums, ideally for me the midi drums would be a full trap set which once exported to midi I could BFD it, the RealDrums would be a percussion oriented track i.e. congas + brushes type of thing, tracks which are more viable as a stereo track in a mix i.e. a lot more viable than a full kit. BTW, on a tangent, it might be really cool to have a PGMusic wiki where all these cool How Tos from MAC could be stored seriously, forums are not the best place to keep tutorials, how tos, not flexible enough i.e. user driven tutorials. PGMusic video tutorials are great, another tangent
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One point though, if the BiaB song has a RealDrums style there probably isn't any midi drum patterns. So it can't generate midi drums in this case.
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BTW, on a tangent, it might be really cool to have a PGMusic wiki where all these cool How Tos from MAC could be stored
seriously, forums are not the best place to keep tutorials, how tos, not flexible enough i.e. user driven tutorials. PGMusic video tutorials are great, another tangent
That's an excellent idea. I'd love to see a wiki for BB, RB how tos.
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some of the styles that I tend to play wtih do also have midi drums, they tend to be percussion.
What I would like is to somehow capture the "live" drums i.e. the RealDrums via midi i.e. at the time of recording. I know blasphemy but perhaps performed on an electronic kit.
My issue is that I need the midi drums since I can't mix a stereo drum track of the entire kit
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some of the styles that I tend to play wtih do also have midi drums, they tend to be percussion.
What I would like is to somehow capture the "live" drums i.e. the RealDrums via midi i.e. at the time of recording. I know blasphemy but perhaps performed on an electronic kit.
My issue is that I need the midi drums since I can't mix a stereo drum track of the entire kit
Well I'm not sure whether or not the BiaB style maker keeps the midi drum patterns when you set it to RealDrums. But either way it seems logical to me that RB would assume that since the style has RealDrums assigned then it should just generate RealDrums.
I do see your point of view though. There are times where you might want the midi drums instead of or as well as the RealDrums.
I think the easiest way you could do that is to change the style. In BiaB open the style in the style maker and turn off the RealDrums. Then save it with a new name so as not to lose the original (or I suppose you could overwrite the original if you always want this behavior).
Then, when you create a song in RB using that style you will get midi drums. It would be easy then to generate RealDrums inside RB. Then you can mute either or mix them however you want. I'd personally think that's a pretty logical approach all in all.
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yes, I agree , it is a good way of handling this, but since again its all about the workflow , it would be really cool if BB/RB could at least make some default decisions and automate this for me. I always have the option to do it manually as you describe.
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Well I'm not sure whether or not the BiaB style maker keeps the midi drum patterns when you set it to RealDrums. But either way it seems logical to me that RB would assume that since the style has RealDrums assigned then it should just generate RealDrums.
If you have Band in a Box, check out the BB File->Make a Standard MIDI file and be sure to check out the Options window in there, you can tell BB to export both a MIDI drum track AND the RealDrums track if you so desire.
Of course, that assumes that the style you are using is an older one that has a MIDI drum part in it.
Some of the newer styles that are RealDrums only may not have a MIDI part, but I think because many of the RealDrums styles are based on older styles of the same name, they do (RealDrums styles can be found in the Stylepicker category, "Styles with RealDrums" and are indicated as being such by having a dash in front of their filename "-Mystyle.STY" as an example.
It is possible to export both MIDI and RealDrums tracks (in BIAB) in one shot using the Make a Standard MIDI file command.
I expect to see this feature added to RealBand in future.
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thanks, I know how to do that in BB what I hope is that a midi counterpart to RealDrums is provided as well within a BB file format so that when I load it into RB, both midi drums and RealDrums are there. Pretty necessary, if you are going to use something like BFD later down stream.
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I would on this same though love to see RB be able to use VSTis with timing needs, that way EZdrummer and Jamstix could be used, then JS can be told to jam with audio
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