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#165117 07/09/12 12:04 PM
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I have downloaded some biab songs from the website mentioned in another post.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/glitch/

I am looking at a song that has much chord notation that I am not familiar with.

Examples:

F.pg
F.bps
F.bpsC/E.bps
Dm7.bpsDM.bps
C7.bpd
F.p

I searched help but could not find anything (its probably there, I just didn't find it)
Could someone please help me?


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In BIAB, click on Help and search for "Rests". Read that carefully. What you are seeing with the period and lower-case letters are not chord symbols, but BIAB playing instructions.


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Thanks Matt!


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You're welcome. I just edited my post to put the correct topic, "Rests" (plural). Shots, holds and rests are very powerful and go a long way toward making BIAB backing tracks sound more 'real'.


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Todd, a song like that is perfect for you to learn how that stuff is done. For starters I would remove all those dots and letters and just leave the basic chords and listen to it. Just do a "save as" and rename it so you don't mess up the original. When you do that you can tell immediately what all those controls are doing and that in turn will pique your interest to learn how the person who created it did all that stuff.

I have some songs like that that I've downloaded. I've put them into a test folder because even if some are songs I don't like much they're still great learning tools. They're very complex, the whole screen is filled with red, with green highlights. Every one of those represents a specific type of edit. A bunch of bar numbers have little red boxes around them which means that bar has embedded changes from the basic style and one of them I had to watch the screen carefully to realize there were big tempo changes going on too. And style changes. When you get used to all that a song like that one won't be such a mystery any more.

What you can do to a song now with v2012 beyond the basic style is mind boggling. Picking a style really is just a very simple starting point. You can insert different instrument parts from many different styles both midi and with Real Tracks. During the original beta testing for 2012 one tester inserted about 20 different real tracks at different tempos and feels throughout her song and it sounded great. It also sounded so complex some of us couldn't believe at first it was one basic Biab tune. It really sounded like she took 3 or 4 different versions, exported all the tracks to Real Band to cut/paste and mix it all together but no, it was all done in Biab and the whole thing played just by hitting 'play' as usual. Amazing.

I will say this though. A tune like that is probably easier to do in the first place using Real Band rather than Biab but all those functions are there if you want to keep it all Biab.

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Matt you are right! I was amazed by the nuances created in the compositions using the shots, holds and rests.
I will go back to my arrangements and use these where they are needed.


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Thanks for the great comments Bob.
I admit that I was fascinated when I saw all of the colorful dots and strange characters on some of the songs I downloaded. I am anxious to study these as you suggested by deconstructing the arrangement.
I am blown away with the power of RB. I have a great time adding my own vocals and instrument parts to a song started with BIAB. I use my Voiceplay Live GTX to add harmonies (I love that little box). I know I can add the harmonies with the built in TC-Helicon add-in which I have used but since I run through a mixer, I like to add the harmonies "live".


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While you are at it, try the caret (shift-6) character. Like this:

^F..pg

^^C7-5..dg

The caret has the chord play a fraction of a beat early. Try it and see.


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