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Usually a new issue comes with lots of program improvements and bug fixes etc. I cannot see a list for 2012.5 so are there any?
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Tony,
Peter has made a list of things in the first post in this forum. This might address some of what you're after.
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Midi engine maybe?
If super tracks just required a mask to change them anyone could have done it, right?
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Usually a new issue comes with lots of program improvements and bug fixes etc. I cannot see a list for 2012.5 so are there any?
Tony is correct... I can't find any list of bug fixes, small improvements, tweaks, etc. either. Just the major new features and RealTracks.
I am particularly interested in knowing whether they fixed the keyboard input for operating the Conductor. It has been a long wait. Someone in another thread suggested they fixed the Jukebox, and this may reflect the same underlying feature, but I am not sure, and would like confirmation before I order the 2012.5 upgrade.
Thanks for any clarification.
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I do see where you get new chord types -- dim triad, dim7, and Add2. These have all been loudly demanded in the past.
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Clarification, the three new types are dim5 (which means dim, because we always had dim7 when we used dim), add2, and madd2.
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what!! No 50 new features, we can't have a new release without that, just another reason to wait until the end of the year. And I guess John Conley will have to eat his hat since he said that midi was dead!!  Musiclover
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Well, PG Music says this:
We’re excited to offer Band-in-a-Box 2012.5 for Windows with over 15 great new features and enhancements, 101 more RealTracks, and for the first time ever, MIDI SuperTracks.
I think they are entitled to have fewer new features when they introduce a ground-breaking new direction.
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Clarification, the three new types are dim5 (which means dim, because we always had dim7 when we used dim), add2, and madd2.
Yeah...but where's the madd2dim5sus4aug9/g we've all been waiting for???
OUCH!!! I just dislocated my pinky playing that bad boy!!!
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Brallan, Quote:
I am particularly interested in knowing whether they fixed the keyboard input for operating the Conductor. It has been a long wait. Someone in another thread suggested they fixed the Jukebox, and this may reflect the same underlying feature, but I am not sure, and would like confirmation before I order the 2012.5 upgrade.
Why not write to Support and ask? I've found PG Music to be honest in all their dealings with me.
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Well, PG Music says this:
We’re excited to offer Band-in-a-Box 2012.5 for Windows with over 15 great new features and enhancements, 101 more RealTracks, and for the first time ever, MIDI SuperTracks.
I think they are entitled to have fewer new features when they introduce a ground-breaking new direction.
If there are 15 new features, appart from RTs and midi styles, all I am asking for is a list of the 15 features.
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Hi Tony, Here's the link from Peter's post that I referred to earlier ... http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htmIf you scroll down the page a bit, you'll find a list that is pretty comprehensive. All the best, Noel
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Big productions are demanding far more than the old worn out midi protocol. You have varying parts fighting it out in the background. Some needed LAN protocols mLan being one. There have been a lot of pros and cons but midi cannot say " switch device x to mode y and do the following lighting changes at time q " for example.
Yamaha have a sort of proprietary thing, and I bet we will see many new things in the near future.
Midi was 80's.
To tell me manufacturers will make midi modules either software or hardware based, and spending r n d monies on it is bordering the ludicrous.
The midiots may rejoice at this, but I think the smart money lies elsewhere. And to suggest that our beloved pgmusics use of midi anything as a bell weather is patently unrealistic.
The forward moving computer music technology has left basic midi stranded on Elba, a forlorn and solitary existence standing at an angle that when viewed in context makes the famed Italian tower appear perpendicular.
No matter the slice it is thin, have fun, and perhaps you, business basic and z80 machine language can make a late foray for gold, blithley ignoring Theodosius as he promulgates the future.
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I watched the new features video and it sold me. I was going to wait but I want to start using some of those new features NOW! Also, I just watched the DAW tutorial which is very worthwhile. I wished I had watched it a lot sooner as it would have saved me a lot of time. That's another good reason to keep current for me anyway.
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Sometimes I think the best would be to arrange to have a person with a background / degree / diploma in Adult Education. A serious one with that as their 'life mission'.
Then take a good videographer, someone who can put together a story board, some resources into production and then to forge ahead and make a case for going ahead with the software.
When I think of some of the players, including Oliver Gannon that could collaborate on the final track, and then to show how they would do it live, well, that would be a HUGE boost.
But I see you making a decision, and I'm sure those of us who are current would like to hear of what you accomplish, and how this changes the game for you.!
Bonne Chance mon ami...
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Clarification, the three new types are dim5 (which means dim, because we always had dim7 when we used dim), add2, and madd2.
Yeah...but where's the madd2dim5sus4aug9/g we've all been waiting for???
OUCH!!! I just dislocated my pinky playing that bad boy!!!
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You kiddin'? You dislocated my pinky playing it. 
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I would like to blow over that chord. There are no wrong notes!
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Jazz players usually have resolve, in a roundabout way.
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There is no help in HELP which does not include information on the 2012.5 version changes. May be this will be included in an update???
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Has the new features list and video been removed?
I can't find a list and the video says "Available soon".
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