|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223
Apprentice
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223 |
NOt sure if just me, but...
I have songs created prior to BIAB2013.
If I change the chords now in 2013 for same song, the audio stutters after generation..it only plays fine again after a reboot of the machine..
this does not happen if I create a new song in 2013 version.
any ideas?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Likely your machine is getting pressed for resources.
What OS, what processor, how much ram, what is the hard drive situation?
From that info we might be able to come up with a solution other than, "buy a new computer" -- maybe.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,624
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,624 |
What is your machine's score in Geekbench?
What are your checkbox settings in Preferences, RealTracks?
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,651
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,651 |
I'd guess hard drive space allocation with the clues given.
Of course Mac already asked that.
A new file is not the same as a pre-existing one. With a pre-existing one you start including 'undo' and such that requires storage to accomplish.
If you open a new file and generate a song, save, and then start re-generating again I'd bet the same issue occurs. Or at least it's a way to test the theory.
Last edited by rharv; 01/20/13 01:00 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223 |
Hi Guys
Thanks for the answers:
I'm running BIAB quite comfortably on my Fujitsu U1010.
Specs: 1G RAM, CPU 800MHz, 60GB HDD, and using external 500GB drive for my realdrums & realtracks...also on Windows XP (SP3).
I only have the OS installed and BIAB, nothing else...all other services/resources I've turned off...
BIAB runs comfortably with up to 4 realtracks loaded...the problem is only when I change the chords or tempo and regenerate to an existing song
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,624
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,624 |
These questions may still help:
What is your machine's score in Geekbench?
What are your checkbox settings in Preferences, RealTracks?
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223 |
Hi Matt
Geekbench Score is 610.
realtracks setting:
"allow realtack substitution based on tempo" - CHECKED
"speed up generation of realtracks (disable on slow machines) - CHECKED
"high quality tempo/pitch stretching (disable on slow machines) - UNCHECKED
"use +/- realtracks for generation (enable on slow machines) - CHECKED
"add reverb to realtracks" - CHECKED
"allow realtracks shots/holds/pushes" - CHECKED
"load/save VST/FX with songs" - CHECKED
* notation settings all UNCHECKED
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,624
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,624 |
Speed up generation should be Unchecked on your machine. You might also try Unchecking Add Reverb.
We know that a Geekbench score less than around 1500 could be a problem for the last several versions of BIAB. You may simply have a machine that is not powerful enough. But first try what has been suggested here.
I'm guessing your laptop is about 10 years old, right? I know you run BIAB from the external drive, but how full is that 60GB boot drive? You need at least 15% free space. Has it been defragged recently?
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223 |
thanks Matt My machine is 5 years old, and there is about 35GB free space... I'll try the speed generation and reverb settings... Thanks again 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
Hi Rallypally Seems that you have the same problem that I had - see http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=388109&an=0&page=1#Post388109My old PC motherboard/chip etc gave me Geekbench 1349. That was OK with my old Biab2008 but when I bought the 2013 Everything Pak, I got exactly the same issues. These guys pointed me in the right direction - follow their advise. Defraggler cleaned up the hard drive a bit but I had to check the Do not Allow Fast Generation tab every time, especially when the Style was a RealTracks one, in order to get a "clean" playback and even then it wasnt always good. Worse - the Generation time was a LONG time, especially when you have only made a minor change and want to hear the results quickly. BUT - a new motherboard / chip got me 4228 and (fingers crossed) I have had no more problems in that direction. Way less money than a new PC but I don't know how that works for laptops. Good Luck
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,492
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,492 |
I've had the same problem on my old laptop -- and that was 2.2 GHz and 2 GB RAM. That problem had started after installing BIAB 2011. (Supposedly the new version of RealTracks used more real time ressources.) When it broke down and I had to replace it, the problem was gone. (The new laptop is a little faster, 4 cores instead of 2, and has twice the RAM.)
Desktop; i7-2600k, 8 GB mem., Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
Laptop: i5-2410M, 4 GB mem, Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Quote:
Hi Guys
Thanks for the answers:
I'm running BIAB quite comfortably on my Fujitsu U1010.
Specs: 1G RAM, CPU 800MHz, 60GB HDD, and using external 500GB drive for my realdrums & realtracks...also on Windows XP (SP3).
I only have the OS installed and BIAB, nothing else...all other services/resources I've turned off...
BIAB runs comfortably with up to 4 realtracks loaded...the problem is only when I change the chords or tempo and regenerate to an existing song
About the only thing you might try with those (rather poor for his purpose) specs is a Disk Defrag. It may help a little.
Perform the Disk Defrag no matter what the routine reports, as in "you don't need to defrag at this time" or a low percentage of fragmented files.
Don't expect miracles, though it may improve things a bit.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223 |
THanks everyone Will try the defrag too Mac... Rally
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Another gig of RAM wouldn't hurt either. BiaB loads realtracks from disk to RAM when generating a song. From there on, playback takes place from RAM. I base this statement on monitoring my own hard drive activity.
1 gig of RAM with XP is barely a little more available than what the operating system chews up. Not much left for BiaB sessions. I have an aging hp laptop that runs xp pro and use it during beta testing of BB, just to prove that it will still work on older systems. It has 2 gigs of ram in it. Even then, a long editing session or the loading of realtracks songs back to back can bring the need to stop, close down and reboot the computer in order to get resources back to the point where it will work without stuttering at playback. I've also noticed that use of a hardware MIDI synth and not a software MIDI synth can extend that certain amount of time before resources get used up.
Of course, the newer, more powerful and faster machines here don't have that problem at all. For example, a dual core AMD laptop running Win7 here, 4g ram in it right now, is a noticeable difference in realtracks loading times and performance. And the Intel i7 machine w/Solid State C drive loads and generates so fast by comparison that it often makes me think that something's wrong until I remember which machine I'm using.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223 |
Hello Everyone
Just for the record, I found out that my external USB harddrive was faulty.
Used another harddrive, and now no problems.
Thanks again!
Rally
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Quote:
Hello Everyone
Just for the record, I found out that my external USB harddrive was faulty.
Used another harddrive, and now no problems.
Thanks again!
Rally
Hi Rally,
It may just be a case of loose connections to the actual disk inside the hard drive case, a common problem.
Don't throw that usb drive away before first opening it up and simply pull the actual hard drive out of its connector inside the case, and re-insert it fully. Then reassemble the drive case and check operation.
Those internal connections are notorious culprits in all brands and models of usb drives, all it takes is for one of them to get a little loose or dirty to stop the show.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 223 |
ok Mac Thanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Last Chance! The Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® Special Ends Today (May 31, 2026) at 11:59pm PDT!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PDT today!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the amazing new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. View the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to transcribe an entire track or transcribe specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Mac® to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!
Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.
Holiday Weekend Hours
It's Victoria Day Long Weekend in Canada. Our Customer Service hours are:
Saturday, May 16: Closed
Sunday, May 17: Closed
Monday, May 18: 8:00am - 4:00pm
Regular hours resume Tuesday, May 19th!
Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!
Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!
Don't wait - order today!
Check out all the new features in the redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!
Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.
Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.
If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!
202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!
With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!
Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,485
Posts805,587
Members40,129
| |
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean