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Hi all, here's my problem. I use BIAB 2013 to create backing tracks. Typically, I slow the last bars down without using the BIAB 2 bar ending. Everything works fine on the computer, but when I render to Wav, the slow down is not in the resulting render. Has anyone experienced this problem?
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Hi Limau,
First things first, have you downloaded and installed the latest Update Patch?
That might just be the cure here.
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Thanks Mac, I have just downloaded the latest patch and ran the set up wizard as suggested, but another try did not render the slow down to wav. Strange, as it works fine on the computer in BIAB. I should add that fade out in the last bars renders to wav perfectly.
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What method are you invoking for the Fadeout?
Also, whenever BiaB does not do something that it is supposed to do, always try doing a Return to Fatory Settings found under the Options menu. There is a volatile file that can get corrupted sometimes and doing that will rewrite it to a known working state. See if doing that clears up this problem.
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Hi Mac, I use Fade from the Bar Settings drop down menu.
I will now reset to Factory Setting and give that a try.
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After resetting to factory settings, and clearing and rewriting the song and slow down ending, the same problem exists. It works within BIAB but the slowdown does not render to wav.
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How are your rendering to wav? There are more then one way to to it. Try the most simple of all, drag and drop a single track to the desktop and play it to see if it has the correct fad ending. If it does then drag and drop the combo to a single track and see if that works. Or have you done this?
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There is no reason to feel stuck if you can't get this working. Just record the song playing in real time into an audio editing program.
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Jazzmandan,I select the .Wav from the button bar in the BIAB interface. I will try drop and drag and report back. Thanks.
Matt, if all else fails, I will start experimenting with other music editting software, thanks.
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While the support given on this forum is SENSATIONAL...before bailing on BIAB have you contacted PG Tech Support?
I would imagine they would ask you to send them the file you created to see if they can reproduce/troubleshoot your issue.
Also...just a wild guess/stab in the dark. But if I read you correctly you are attempting to do 2 different things with the ending.
1. Slow the tempo down...sort of a rubato ending correct?
2. Fade out the volume.
It occurs to me that attempting to do both in the same bars may be causing some sort of conflict during the render from BIAB to wav.
Just a guess.
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Hi Jim, These files are backing tracks, nothing complicated. Some have slow down and fade, some are only one or the other, and not from the same bar in most cases. Everything works fine in BIAB, and the only problem is that slow down does not render to wav.
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Hi Jim, These files are backing tracks, nothing complicated. Some have slow down and fade, some are only one or the other, and not from the same bar in most cases. Everything works fine in BIAB, and the only problem is that slow down does not render to wav.
Gotcha. If I read you correctly then in some cases, you attempt ONLY the slow down...not slow PLUS fade but the slow down doesn't render. Right?
If so, my theory that trying to do BOTH on the same bar caused a train wreck in the rendering process...is BULLOCKS!!!!
Hope you get is sorted out.
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Yeah, its weird. I sent an email to support about it. What I would like to know of is that someone with 2013 can actually definitely render to wav with a slow down in tempo at the end of a tune.
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Yeah, its weird. I sent an email to support about it. What I would like to know of is that someone with 2013 can actually definitely render to wav with a slow down in tempo at the end of a tune.
It would be better if you could find a place on the web to upload one of the songfiles you have that exhibit this behavior and then post the URL to that stored songfile here.
Letting others be able to take a look at what's going on with the actual file(s) that exhibit the problem for you is recommended. For one thing, others may not be able to duplicate exactly what you've done, for another, it might be something else going on and not a bug at this point.
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Well, I just had a related problem. I'm using a Ketron SD2. Up until the most recent version, when I clicked the .wav button, I got the render window. There I had some choices, which for me, was always re-render to .wav. I can render to .wav but not using the SD2. First I have to check the DXi boxes in the midi window and render using a soft synth which is Coyote Forte for me. The end result falls way short to of the Ketron SD2 though. Thanks to Mario, I can do it in Sonar X1 using the SD2. It's more steps but at least I get to use the synth I want to use.
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Stan, what you are describing is normal. Those of us who use a hardware MIDI synth have to either Drag'n Drop to a DAW, or record a mix in real time that includes the output of the hardware synth (your SD2). I have never even used the Render feature of BIAB.
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Hi Matt. You might not have used the re-render feature, but you could have. It might be normal now, but it wasn't until this year. I'm just pointing this out in case some others are confused.
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Good point, Stan. It's wonderful there are so many ways to get the job done. My present equipment predates by several years the ability of BIAB to render, so I just stay with what I know works. But I have tested the rendering feature as part of beta testing, and it's pretty nifty!
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It used to be nifty, but it seems that I am no longer to able to render to a .wav file using my hardware synth.. Not sure why they changed that in 2013 as I would think there are still a lot of folks still using hardware synths.
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Band in a Box has NEVER been able to perform the automatic Render function on any hardware MIDI synth.
That is because the processor that creates the sounds in a hardware synth is outside the domain of the PC processor.
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