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musiclover #211847 08/10/13 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By: musiclover
and I can sense their disappointment in not having a clue what's happening.

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But we DO have a clue what is happening! PG is working as hard as it possibly can to evolve the next generation of its software.

Here's a SAMPLE PG announcement:

Dear User Community:

We are working hard to evolve the next generation of BIAB. In that regard, we are committed to certain features that are taking longer than we expected. We will release the next version whenever we finalize the features we are committed to but can't tell you when that will be because we don't know.


Does that sort of self-evident commentary make anyone feel any better????

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Well i was going to buy the current version but if there is a chance that there may be a new version soon,I'll wait.

Not in a hurry anyway.

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For me, the benefits of knowing whether and when an upgrade will be coming (and maybe a preview of what it will include, especially regarding new styles/genres and tools) are:
1. I would not have to check the site as often (although I do confess anticipatory excitement when I do, and I nearly always learn something new from the posts), and, more significantly,
2. I could assess whether such might have a positive effect (including realization of any wish list requests) on my current holiday project, which I tend to wrap up at the end of August/beginning of September.
But that's just me, and I'm happy with whatever we get and when, and I always support PG by upgrading each time.


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Dear friends,

Every year BIAB is pregnant. Nobody knows, when it gives Birth.
Just sit down, and wait.
Suddenly it will cry out, scream.

Yours,

Doctor Jazz

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Because of a snafu last year I missed my upgrade cycle, so yes, it is getting REALLY anxious here!! grin

I just hope the pricing stays the same, or I will be out of the game this year, no matter WHAT type of upgrades / features / etc / etc is in the works... the budget only goes so far anymore, and i have nothing left to sell! laugh cool


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For what its worth...

IF they are going to start only issuing yearly(?) UPGRADES why not try and schedule a mid year 100 style pack then, no new features , only new styles ... if they price that attractively I would certainly spend MY money on that. I am fairly certain that would satisfy a LOT of users ...

That would certainly satisfy me as new features are always a bonus for me but the addition of the new styles the factor that makes ME pull the trigger, not the new features ....


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Y'all may have heard of software companies that make promises that they cant keep. I used to work for one such. They promised a whole bunch of glorious fixes and new features, and gave a date when the new stuff would be released. The stuff was not ready, but the company released it anyway. Left the burden of keeping the customer happy on the shoulders of techs like your obedient servant.

One famous story is that, years ago, M'soft released a version of the Win operating system with over 1000 known bugs (not to mention an unknown number of known ones.) They had an effective monopoly, so showing contempt for their users was not a problem.

This is something has PG Music does not do. I, too, am keen to see the new version with a whole bunch of cool new features. I am a long time user, and I understand that PG understands that it is bad business to release a bunch of bugs. So, in my estimation, version 2013.5 is overdue, but there must be a reason. It might be that the delay is due to something mind-blowing spectacular, and I am willing to cut them some slack for as long as it takes to get it right. I trust PG to put out a quality product, and so I can be patient a little longer.

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Originally Posted By: CountryTrash
For what its worth...

IF they are going to start only issuing yearly(?) UPGRADES why not try and schedule a mid year 100 style pack then, no new features , only new styles ... if they price that attractively I would certainly spend MY money on that. I am fairly certain that would satisfy a LOT of users ...

That would certainly satisfy me as new features are always a bonus for me but the addition of the new styles the factor that makes ME pull the trigger, not the new features ....


here, here I agree with this. The main thing I get the upgrades for are the new real tracks. I figure if there are at least 2 I can't live without its worth getting them to replace 2 $50 per hour musicians on a session. Not only do I have them for this session but all future sessions at now additional costs.

So, yes if there are a couple super new real tracks in any upgrade I'm probably going to go ahead and get it.


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As long as they fix the unsatisfactory Real Trax /Drums endings generation issues then it would be worth buying.

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**BUMP**

I WOULD like to know IF I should start saving now for this years release, and if so how much?

Mainly because it will either be he BB upgrade, or a bass guitar, and it would be nice to know if I should start looking now for the bass...

I figure if we don't hear a thing by mid-sept I will go for the bass.


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I personally think that there will be a 2014 by year end.

We got used over a .5 incremental upgrade over the last few years so I suspect that there could be some nice new/improved features coming ....

But even if not ... I "need" at least some new styles .....


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Originally Posted By: CountryTrash
I "need" at least some new styles .....


I agree! The problem is the styles are at times locked to a version of BB, like the last group "needed" 2012.5 or higher,etc,so we will still need to have the program at times.

I REALLY did not mean to come across like the typical "If Co. does not do what I want, I will stomp my feet & move on", but with money being SO tight ATM I just need to figure out where I can stretch my dollar.


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Originally Posted By: jcspro40
**BUMP**

I WOULD like to know IF I should start saving now for this years release, and if so how much?

Mainly because it will either be he BB upgrade, or a bass guitar, and it would be nice to know if I should start looking now for the bass...

I figure if we don't hear a thing by mid-sept I will go for the bass.



As night follows day I think you can rest assured that there will be a 2014 biab, unless PG goes out of business in the meantime and I don't think that is likely to happen.

Regardless whether there will a .5 or not this is the best sale to buy in early or mid December

The upgrade price of the ultra pak (has virtually everything) is usually $139 from previous years version.

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I fully understand that Mr. Musiclover, I have been on the BiaB Band Wagon since the floppy disk days!grin

It is just that with the better half's med bills increasing because they are trying to shaft everyone, I just can not save as quickly as I could in years past is all, and a little info would really help on the BiaB front!

Like I said, if there is silence from PGM I will just spend the money on a bass & move on. cool


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Only 4 and a half months to 2014! I've waited this long for .5 I'm sure I can wait a few more months for 2014. Just hope its really a major upgrade this time. Fact is I love the program but I wonder what more can they really do to make it better. I use ProTools and Sonar as primary tools to complete what I'm roughing in with BIAB. So with the latest versions of those DAW's its not that important to improve the interface and all of that. I really just get excited about some of the new real tracks. Give me some more zydacoe and backup harmonicas. A tailgate trombone instead of all soloists. 4 or 5 super real tracks and the rest won't really matter to me. So 2014 is only 4 and half months away!


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Originally Posted By: earl kirby
.......Just hope its really a major upgrade this time. Fact is I love the program but I wonder what more can they really do to make it better.......


A 64 bit option comes to my mind!


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.......Just hope its really a major upgrade this time. Fact is I love the program but I wonder what more can they really do to make it better.......


A 64 bit option comes to my mind!


Why? What real advantage is a 64 bit option going to give us? I guess I'm dumb here but BIAB does what it does extremely well now. I like the fact that the program will run on next to nothing. It's fast by my standards but then I'm 70 years old and getting kindof slow


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'It's fast by my standards but then I'm 70 years old and getting kindof slow.' Well said, I got a good laugh out of that.

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.......Just hope its really a major upgrade this time. Fact is I love the program but I wonder what more can they really do to make it better.......


A 64 bit option comes to my mind!


Why? What real advantage is a 64 bit option going to give us? I guess I'm dumb here but BIAB does what it does extremely well now. I like the fact that the program will run on next to nothing. It's fast by my standards but then I'm 70 years old and getting kindof slow


Earl, a 32-bit system limits you to about 3.5 Gb of RAM. You can install more, but your system won't "see" it. Users are finding that this limits them severely when using memory-intensive VSTs and plugins. Also, if PG products ever begin to use Rewire, you will need to be able to run more than one DAW at a time, which will really require more memory.

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Funny one of the improvements I really wanted was ability to use different vst's. Now that I have it I don't use it. To darn complicated to set it up. I just use the gm module from sonar and change to better sounds when I go to a DAW. I use BIAB as my general scratch pad where I start my construction process and then use the more powerful tools available to us to finish it. I doubt I will ever need to use more than the avail memory for a 2 and a half minute song during this phase of the process. 5 to 7 tracks doesn't take up that much. Flip that over to the DAW and add and subtract to 40 50 tracks is where I'll run into memory problems. I don't think BIAB was ever intended to be the one complete answer to the finale toolbox one uses when creating the recording.

I guess different folks use these programs in different ways. So once again, give me a few really blow me away real track musicians that I don't have in my bag and I'm going to be happy.


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