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So, in answer to the question..."Can I obtain an enforceable copyright in a melody generated by BIAB?"...the answer is "MAYBE and MAYBE NOT." Just like any melody you come up with in your head. There is always the possibility that someone got there first. Sometimes those melodies come unconsciously from something we have heard before. So, MAYBE and MAYBE NOT. However, a lot will depend on the chord structure you choose for your song. It's a greater possibility that you might end up with "similar" or "close enough" melodies by different people using the same chord progression. Much more unlikely, however, with different chord progressions.
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You can obtain a copyright on any work, matter of fact under current US law, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is completed by the author. There is, however, copyright *REGISTRATION* which is what I think you are trying to refer to. Registering your work with the US copyright office costs about 40 dollars per work, or you can go for the less expensive "compilation" copyright, which for the one price will cover an entire compilation of songs, such as a CD. However, there are caveats as to your protection with the cheaper method. The copyright office does not do searches to see if your work is a copy of someone else's. But do not take my word for it either. You should visit the source, the US government copyright office webpage and at least read the FAQs there, which answer a lot if not all questions. http://www.copyright.gov/ Rumors, misinformation and disinformation are rampant on this subject. If you are serious, get your information only from the source. --Mac
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You can obtain a copyright on any work, matter of fact under current US law, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is completed by the author. There is, however, copyright *REGISTRATION* which is what I think you are trying to refer to. Registering your work with the US copyright office costs about 40 dollars per work, or you can go for the less expensive "compilation" copyright, which for the one price will cover an entire compilation of songs, such as a CD. However, there are caveats as to your protection with the cheaper method. The copyright office does not do searches to see if your work is a copy of someone else's. But do not take my word for it either. You should visit the source, the US government copyright office webpage and at least read the FAQs there, which answer a lot if not all questions. http://www.copyright.gov/ Rumors, misinformation and disinformation are rampant on this subject. If you are serious, get your information only from the source. --Mac A couple of refinements. No work is invested with a copyright until it is reduced to a physical form from which it can be discerned (tape, CD, sheet music etc.) So, you can't just whistle a tune...or play it on a musical instrument and obtain a copyright even if you created it in front of a thousand witnesses. It is true that the Copyright Office does not rule on the originality of a song submitted to it and therefore, one can register a work that is an exact copy of Hotel California. But A) such a copyright would be INVALID and B) it would actually violate copyright law to copy the song for purposes of registration. Best, Jim
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Glad we got past the squabble about semantics! I've found the melody generation very helpful as a starting point when writing a song. I let band-in-a-box generate lots of melodies until I find one that I can relate to, then I use a phrase or two to inspire me. I almost always change most of the melody, and the chord sequence here and there.
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I understad that I own the right to a song that I create using BIAB, but I need documentation. I have already seen Sales FAQ #22, but I need something a little more concrete for YouTube monetization. They are specifically requesting that I reference this permission in the software's License Agreement. Can someone point me to a page in the Owner's Manual, or some other authoritative source besides the FAQ? Thanks, John
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There's form posts from staff and the owner.
There's also the fact that the license file doesn't claim any rights to any derived works.
There are BiaB files all over youtube now, why the worry?
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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I'll try again... I keep getting this from YouTube: "Hi, To assist us in processing your submission for monetization, we would like for you to provide us with more information regarding the license agreement for the audio (including background music) contained in your video. Specifically, we need for you to confirm that you have been cleared to use the aforementioned material for commercial purposes. You may e-mail us this information as an attachment or provide us with a direct link to the terms. If you would like to monetize videos that contain audio from or created from software, please refer to our Monetization FAQs at http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=2490089.Sincerely, The YouTube Team"
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Did you receive this reply after citing BIAB's Sales FAQ #22? The YouTube link even mentions FAQs as a possible source. I would like to know precisely what YouTube means by "royalty-free software". No software company can certify that a song you make does not infringe copyright. Early posts in this thread, some mine, describe some of the reasons for that. There is another FAQ here that relates to the previous point: http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq28.htm#29But to answer your first question, I am not aware of anywhere else on the PG Music site or license that says anything more clear that those two FAQ entries.
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Yes -- I even provided a link to the FAQ.
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I found some pages in the manual that may be applicable. However, at 14M, it is too large for me to attach in my email to YouTube support. Is there an online manual that I can link to?
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Just send them the appropriate parts.
or ..
Create a Dropbox account*
Upload the file
Send them a link to the file
Temp free storage is available.
*not endorsing Dropbox, it's just a familiar free service. There are many others like Google Docs, etc
/not sure how PGMusic feels about sharing their manual, but these services can allow the user to only share it with a suppled link, so it's not really public.
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I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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I would register my works with the us copyright office.
When asked, I'd show 'em my copyright.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
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- Playable RealTracks Set 5
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- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
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Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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