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This thread is in response to an interesting topic started in another about copying "form factors" as intellectual property. Question: What classic axe is this? Answer: It's a Butterscotch Fender Telecaster, of course. Wrong! Keep clicking.
Last edited by PRearden; 07/30/13 09:06 AM. Reason: to reduce clutter and annoyance
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So, how close is too close when it comes to copying? In guitars we seem to accept 100% with the exception of the headstock logo. Why do we feel differently about other products? For example the cable testers from the original thread: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/search.jsp?sB=r&Ntt=cable+testerWhy is it wrong for Berhinger to copy the form of a competitor, and acceptable practice for Hamer and the host of other guitar manufactuers? How many guitars are copies of the original Teles and Strats? How about the Gibson SG, or Les Paul?
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With us old flatulent Irishmen, electronic technician types, Barry got off to a bad start by blatantly "ripping off" the designs of his leading competitors thus eliminating the very expensive R&D stages of product development. A practice that was totally unfair to people like Greg Mackie and countless other industry leaders who had paid their dues and all R&D costs incurred in marketing the product only to have Berringer come along and "borrow" hard work that others had laboriously put into the design. There was a time when entire circuit boards were "pirated" down to, and including, Mackie's original errors.
Being a friend of Greg's, I was soured on Barry until just recently when, upon trusted advice from friends here that Barry has turned it all around and has quit "borrowing" designs, a bought a pair of MS40 Near Field Monitors. I'm very happy with them 6 months later.
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There is copyright and there is copyright. It all depends on the topic. For some interesting ideas see here: http://www.ted.com/talks/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.htmlThe folks whose poducts are pirated in some way or the other are mostly the victims of their marketing strategies; sometimes the reason is their copyrighting mania. Products that nobody wants are not pirated!
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Excellent video, Guido. I truly enjoyed that. Danke.
I served as a stocking import distributor for Kiso Suzuki guitars from Japan. It was nearly impossible to tell them from the original that they were copied from until you would actually play one of them.
In electronic circuitry, there is another factor that makes design enforcement exceedingly difficult. That is: All circuitry constitutes "an application of an existing patent" therefore not patentable on it's own merits.
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Knew right away that's not a real Butterscotch, first giveaway is the bright chrome plating instead of nickel, next is the contouring round the neck joint, plus the contouring around the body edges, not sharp like real Tele, the two tuners we can see aren't correct period and they, too, are bright chrome and not nickel, as well as being just plain wrong, how's that for starters?
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