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Real Horns would be great (Earth Wind and Fire, Tower of Power, etc... as would real Backup Vocals (even long tones.) Some more Real Tracks (as others requested, B3, vibes, etc.) I'd like to see some Real Tracks that mimic specific artists (whose licks are well-documented) like Bird.


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Basic Oohs and Ahhs!


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Focus on features designed for the live GiGs.
- Easy set-up of playlists (without changing the names of the songs to get them to play in a certain order)
- A live gig style jukebox where I can set the amount of time between song playback, or better yet control it by a foot control.





I set up playlists without changing the names of songs by doing the following:
1. Click on the favorite songs button (the "F" between the "Song" button and song title box
2. Use the buttons on right (Append, Insert, Up, Down, etc.) to arrange the set as desired
3. Save the set (all you have to do is name it) To load it later, just click on "Load Set" and select the desired set.

Then I play these songs in a Jukebox mode by clicking on the bottom button on the right side of the Favorite Songs dialog box ("Juke...") and then "Play Jukebox" on the dialog box that pops up. I use an automatic pause after each song by going to Prefs>Arrange, and make sure the box is checked beside "Pause Play Until MIDI or Key received".

I use a footswitch to start each song whenever I'm ready; they will automatically load and wait for your command to begin playing. You can order a programmable USB footswitch for $36 plus shipping from Delcom at http://www.delcomproducts.com/productdetails.asp?productnum=803650. It works great. (Thanks to Mac for this tip.)

In BIAB Prefs I have the spacebar set to "Play from start." I program the footswitch to replicate the spacebar.

Good luck,
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I know some have mentioned this, but I'll add to the choir:

Solo Piano generator editor

Fantasy requests that will never get fullfilled:

Being able to create your own melody writer

Being able to created your own soloist

Counterpoint in the harmony generator


More realistic wishes that may be fullfilled soon:

Dobro realtracks soloist
Pedal steel realtracks soloist
More clean guitar realtracks soloists
Jazzy melodic realtracks harmonica soloist - i.e. toots thielman
Melodic violin realtracks soloist - not fiddle - aka more classical

anyway, since everybody is stating what they would like, I figued I'd add to the pile...

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I'd like to see;

Real Cello background and Melody
Real Accordian, even though cranking up chorus helps now.
Real Strings background.
Real voice background
Real violin on styles other than country and bluegrass
Real Brass section with a wide variety of tempos and styles

If I think of any more I'll be back.

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Real Fender-Rhodes piano
Real Strings
Real horns (R&B: trpt/sax/bone) ?
And I'll second the motion for just some simple "Oooo's" & "Ahhhh's" voices...

I saw someone mention some New Orleans/"Little Feat" styles...and how about some "Dr. John" styles...

The current RealTracks have some incredible bossa styles, but little in the way of jazz samba, jazz rhumba feels...


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I haven't read anything in this thread and have no intention of doing so.

I kinda giggle every time I see "Expert" under my name on anything I post. All it means is I talk a lot here. I know a little about my instrument and analog recording and sound, but BIAB? "Baseball bin berry, berry good to me."

When I start feeling like I have some control over the embarrassment of riches I've been handed with each previous version of BIAB I own, I'll worry about asking for more.*

Yeh. This is me, holding my breath. If anybody calls, tell 'em to ask for "Blue Boy."

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1. Long overdue: Multiple level undos

2. When switching from an EV style to a swing style, melody and solo tracks will be automagically updated to swing 8th notes.

I always find it tedious to transcribe a song with complex structure from paper into biab. 2 main issues: (1) the bar numbering on paper doesn't match biab's. (2) cut-and-pasting bars within biab too manual, too error prone. So, it will be very handy if:

3. On the top of biab's internal numbering, biab allows me to label the bars with my own numbering.

4. Drag-and-drop to cut-and-paste bars.

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What *I* would like is an easy 'Save' Option.

What I mean by that is a Save where I can save everything with one click. I don't have to go into Alt-F2 to save Harmonies, and I don't have to go into the Soloist to save Soloist settings with the song, and if I want the 'Strings' Real Tracks part to stay muted, along with the melody, it'll do just that when I open the file the next time.

I would also love to have the Real Tracks parts saved so that I can use the Jukebox feature to go from one song to the next without having to wait up to a minute between songs for the Real Tracks to load.

Now, I'm not even sure if we can do half the stuff I've asked for now, but it would be so nice to get the Real Tracks the way I want them, the parts muted, volumes, pans, and such set, and then press ONE button that saves everything. Then, when I go to open that track again, it's exactly the way it was when I left it. Even opening the same track from the bottom of the File Menu won't do that after I've closed the program.

To me, this is the hardest thing about using BIAB for a live situation, you have to spend so much time between the songs trying to get it set up for the next song, that your audience, or even yourself, loses interest.

Have a Save 1, Save 2, and Save 3 button. The Save 1 does exactly what it does now, Save 2 is like the Save with Harmonies, and Save 3 keeps EVERYTHING just as you have it.

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Gary, this is a very good idea. I don't recall anyone stating this before, and certainly not as clearly.

I can't count how many times I have had to post to someone to Save with Patches & Harmony but do it WHILE the song is playing... We take that sort of thing for granted, but it can confound a new user.

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I'd like to see a stream lined version for musicians on the job and a separate version for home enthusiasts, students and teachers.

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Hi JMatt

I see what you are getting at

Some time ago I suggested that a great feature would be to couple or uncouple features so that you could have a full version or your own slimmed down version for gigging
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If it's already been said, ignore me.

Would love to add a button to re-render the entire arrangement. When I save my arrangement the first time, I'd like it to stay that way and not re-render everything when you open it up and hit play. Simply avoid re-rendering anytime you press play. Only re-render on demand. I know you can do that with RT's - change one and "generate", but I wish the rest to stay the same when I hit that play button.

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I see what you are getting at

Some time ago I suggested that a great feature would be to couple or uncouple features so that you could have a full version or your own slimmed down version for gigging
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I have suggested a feature that would allow users to customize menus for the controls that were essential to their needs.


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If it's already been said, ignore me.

Would love to add a button to re-render the entire arrangement. When I save my arrangement the first time, I'd like it to stay that way and not re-render everything when you open it up and hit play. Simply avoid re-rendering anytime you press play. Only re-render on demand. I know you can do that with RT's - change one and "generate", but I wish the rest to stay the same when I hit that play button.

Cheers,
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Hi Mike,

If I get what it is that you want, it is already there in the form of the RePlay button, located just to the right of the Play button.


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If it's already been said, ignore me.

Would love to add a button to re-render the entire arrangement. When I save my arrangement the first time, I'd like it to stay that way and not re-render everything when you open it up and hit play. Simply avoid re-rendering anytime you press play. Only re-render on demand. I know you can do that with RT's - change one and "generate", but I wish the rest to stay the same when I hit that play button.

Cheers,
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Hi Mike,

If I get what it is that you want, it is already there in the form of the RePlay button, located just to the right of the Play button.


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You are correct, Mac. What I was "trying" to say is: once you haven an arrangement you like and save it then re-open it, hitting play regenerates the arrangement and it turns out slightly different than the one you originally saved.

Maybe, I explained it better this time.

Cheers,
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Hi Mike, after you re-open the arrangement press REPLAY and it will play exactly like you saved it.


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Hi Mike, after you re-open the arrangement press REPLAY and it will play exactly like you saved it.




Wow thanks! I had NO idea! Appreciate it!

Cheers,
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I think that you will find that you still have to wait on RealTracks/RealDrums generation, though.

Just tried it with some of the pgmusic RealTracks demos and that is the case here.

The "Freeze" function may do the trick for you though, as well as converting the entire song to audio mp3 and placing it on the Audio track, muting all the others using Save with Patches and Harmony and not checking them to play.


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Since RealDrums came into existence, we've had the capability (after checking the appropriate box on the RealDrums Settings window) to have BIAB make a decision about which choice for drums would be "best...i.e., not bad" to use in place of the MIDI drums that came with the initial MIDI file (and this works the same for a BIAB file)...and, of course, it makes the substitution automatically. Of course, this can be over-ridden by the user if they wish to do their selection manually.

It would be nice to have a similar capability for RealTracks substitutions, particularly to support quick "backporch" type practice sessions whereby you would like something better than the MIDI instruments but would tolerate (actually "prefer" in many cases hopefully) substituted RealTracks that might not be the optimal had you taken the many minutes to "listen to examples, re-try some over others, etc." as a part of a much longer selection process that you would typically use in putting together something for an actual gig (so I'm talking about a "first order approximation" here....cough, cough). Even this "automatic substitute" process would still take some time for the automatic selection and loading time, but I could envision a folder of say 30 tunes that I plan to practice with for several hours (or the next few days). It would be nice to turn on the selection capability to be applied to a particular folder while I go do a chore or two (or overnight if needed).....i.e., it finishes in 30 minutes or an hour or so (depending on how many files you have in the folder) and is ready to go after that. Again, I'm talking primarily for use in practice sessions or an impromptu session with a couple friends (i.e., non-gig stuff).....and the substitutions would happen only for identical type instruments (i.e., a MIDI fiddle is replaced with a RealTracks fiddle, a MIDI acoustic guitar is replaced with a RealTracks acoustic guitar, etc.).

Actually, as more and more RealTracks are added, if the above was done with "careful foresight -- already an inherent part of PGMusic's operations", it seems to me it could evolve into a really nice future capability. Obviously it would be a bit of a challenge, but my guess is something similar to this has already been discussed at PGMusic...or has already been discussed in another thread.....or maybe it's of no interest....if so, then MY BAD!!!

Another option to the above would, I suppose, just be that of getting RealTracks to load in much faster (i.e., close to "real-time") eventually.......and I'm certain that's been on PGMusic's radar for some time.

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