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Good God........what will people think of next.
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Orwell 1984 would be proud. Kinda reminds me of the short lived series "Max Headroom". I hope some of the 5000 people laid off from MS have something to do with songsmith
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 Thanks for sharing. I guess it's not fair to test Songsmith like that, but ah, need to have another look... - Jepster
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I must recant my smarmy comment about SongSmith. We have a old upright piano in our church that never sounded very good. Today we had a guest pianist play both the Roland keyboard and the upright, both sounded great. It really is in what you do with the tools you have. Wyndham
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What I don't get about this thing is, where/how are they getting the isolated vocal tracks? I hear none of the original background accompaniment. Is the available vocal isolation software that good?
Or am I missing something obvious (as usual).
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Last edited by Bracco; 01/25/09 01:33 PM.
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Today we had a guest pianist play both the Roland keyboard and the upright, both sounded great. It really is in what you do with the tools you have. Wyndham
I know the feelin', bro.
Like when ole Ray Charles used ta sit down at the beat up old Spinet and say, "They's a few good notes ah-lef' innit!" -- and then play the crap outta the thing.
"Iff'n its gotta bad note, don't hit that 'un..."
Easier said than done.
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I think the value of Songsmith is not so much that you can take the cheesiest of styles and create something like in those videos. It's the fact that it can figure out a somewhat decent chord progression based merely upon you singing a melody line. Once you have your chord progression, you can take it from there using other tools.
You probably wouldn't use it to try to have it get the right chord progression of an existing popular song, because there are too many ways you can go. But if you have a melody running through your head and don't have a clue about wrapping an arrangement around it, this is a pretty simple way to get you started.
Or, there's just the old fashioned way...
I think too many people are looking for the holy grail of song creation. You know, you just click "create" and voila, you now have the next hit song that you can fully credit yourself with.
I think Songsmith is merely a tool that will fit certain needs at times. It's not a tool you use all the time, but I can see some benefit to it (even if it's making someone laugh by watching one of those videos).
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I find that it is a decent idea generator.
I'm not really a songwriter, my skills are more in the solo improvisation, performance, and arranging departments.
When I do attempt to write songs, my fingers tend to fall into the same patterns that they have fallen into by playing pop music all my life. The Songsmith, while it doesn't create a finished product IMHO, does create chords that are out of my box. Then I can refine it from there and substitute and enhance chords.
I only wish it would convert the melody to MIDI for export along with the rest.
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I read somewhere that pgmusic had a hand in the making of Songsmith, is this true? 
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The Songsmith styles are just PG Music BiaB styles. Copy some of those BiaB styles to the appropriate Songsmith folder -> they show up immediately in Songsmith and they work. 
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OK - I wondered if there was some cross-pollination going on. Those count-ins on the examples posted by the OP immediately made me think of some of the BIAB generated music I've heard posted here years ago.
-Scott
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