I have a little musical hook on a song I am writing where I play a G on the first beat, need to play a 16th note on the 2nd beat and then switch back to a G. I think it counts out One and a two, three,four. I tried putting a 16th note push on the second G G but that doesn't see quite quick enough. I am playing the song at 66 bpm. Is this possible in BIAB and I just am not understanding how to do it?
What style, time signature and version of BIAB are you using? Those answers may generate better responses.
You may want to add a midi guitar track then edit in the 16th note wherever you need it. Reads kind of crude but a workable solution even if the 16th note is surrounded with audio. The key is matching volume level.
I am using SBALJON.STY SlowCountryBallad with piano [65RS].
I am using BIAB 2014 Build 380.
You may be right I may just need to export and modify, just trying to find a little easier way.
Thanks, Terry
Hi Terry You probably don't need to export to modify it, just add the midi data on the track, e.g. using the Notation window, add the notes to the corresponding Track, and set the patch to the guitar you require in the Mixer.
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I have a little musical hook on a song I am writing where I play a G on the first beat, need to play a 16th note on the 2nd beat and then switch back to a G. I think it counts out One and a two, three,four. I tried putting a 16th note push on the second G G but that doesn't see quite quick enough. I am playing the song at 66 bpm. Is this possible in BIAB and I just am not understanding how to do it?
Thanks,
Terry
Hi Terry,
First, I am unclear from your description attempt whether you are talking about single Notes or rather Chords.
Since you mention "push" it sounds like you mean the Chords entered on the Chord Sheet.
But after that, your description of the timing you want doesn't make musical sense enough to be able to tell you what to enter. "One and a two, three four" doesn't describe Even 16ths, but may describe Swing 8ths.
If you could point to an example of the song in question, say a YouTube, if its a cover tune, that might be the fastest way here.
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back. Busy week. I have posted a short clip on SoundCloud to describe what I am trying to get the BIAB tracks to do. I will admit I have a lot to learn about music and theory so I appreciate the help. I have not used SoundCloud before but I think the sample is here:
If not you can probably search on 4partmusic. The rythym I am talking about happens in the intro, after the word "me" and at the end of the clip. I am trying to create a track that would allow me to play along and the BIAB files seem to be playing too straight for lack of a better term.
Mix isn't the best but I wasn't going for a finished product here
I just used a Simple single strummed Folk guitar realtrack, so it does not accent hard on those beats, you would have to experiment with styles to find that, but the timing works this way. Can't use Pushes in nonexpanded time here because we need that second chord immediately after the Push and pushes work by moving the next chord backwards on the timeline by either an 8th or a 16th note and thus can't play the chord on that beat following, which is needed here.
Ian, I tried your way and it was not quite right. I put in G,^C...^G... though and it was pretty close. I think I may have to play around with both methods and different styles to get it, or go the notation or sequencer route. Mac's way did put the beat on the right note but I will have to try to find a style that would allow me to do that and keep the feel I am looking for. I did learn a couple of things though trying both of your ways so it was well worth the effort.
Is not a band name, actually, but the beginnings of learning how to COUNT along with any piece of music in order to know where each event is placed in the bar.
Counting along with the provided example properly should reveal that there are NO PUSHES involved there.
Don't let ACCENTS fool you into thinking that something happened with the rhythm.
Incidentally, those accented chords are going to likely be the problem when searcing for BB styles, MIDI or RealTrack in an attempt to recreate what I heard on the given example.
If I wanted to make a songfile of that tune, I'd likely resort to plugging in my own acoustic guitar and recording it to Audio track in order to get that thing going as it is on the original. The part is actually rather simple on guitar. After recording to audio, it could simply be played back and maybe a couple other instruments such as Bass and Drums could be added to that, or one could take it further and go for the new User Tracks feature to create their own RealTrack of the thing, maybe.
If I wanted to make a songfile of that tune, I'd likely resort to plugging in my own acoustic guitar and recording it to Audio track in order to get that thing going as it is on the original. The part is actually rather simple on guitar.
--Mac
Bingo...! That's how I would do it too. Rather than wasting a bunch of time trying to figure out how to get a software program to do this perfectly..... Play it on a real guitar. The real guitar also adds that "real player" quality to the whole mix.
If you have 2 paths... one hard, one easier, and both get you to the same place.... choose the quicker, easier one if the results are good. No one will set there and listen and be impressed saying wow... he did that by programming. They won't know and they won't care. All that matters is what it sounds like to the listener.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.
The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
I am sitting here kind of chuckling "at" myself. Sometimes I get so intent with solving a problem through the software I forget the best part, and the part I most enjoy is the playing and singing.
Anyway, Mac, I am trying to make sure I understand what you are saying. I think it is this in my poor little brain.
When I count the the rhythm out it appears that the chord changes from the G to the C actually happens on beats 1 and 2 in 4/4 time. I am playing an accent note in between that makes it sound like the movement is sooner. Is that what you are saying or am I totally off?
If you simply count out loud with the sample recording, in Common Time, 4/4, saying, "One-and-Two-And-Three-And-Four-And" - which subdivides each beat into two, or as 8ths, more properly stated, you should see that the Accented chord you speak of actually falls dead on the "Two" of the bar.
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