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#237814 01/29/14 08:35 PM
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Anyone have any success with a current style for this Dobie Bros hit Drift Away? I have auditioned many with very little success.

Just a shot in the dark here guys.

Thanks,

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I think you mean Dobie Gray, not Dobie Bros. Great song, used to do it years ago but haven't worked it up on BIAB.


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Originally Posted By: 1manband
I think you mean Dobie Gray, not Dobie Bros. Great song, used to do it years ago but haven't worked it up on BIAB.


Drift Away was sung by Dobie Gray, and the Doobie Bros also had a hit with a song titled 'Give Me The Beat Boys' which was the same song (Drift Away), just re-titled. It started with a solo guitar with a lot of Chorus effect.

Not sure which one Danny is looking for, presumably the Doobie Bros cover? Although both were musically very similar.




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Originally Posted By: Danny C.
Anyone have any success with a current style for this Dobie Bros hit Drift Away? I have auditioned many with very little success.

Just a shot in the dark here guys.

Thanks,





I'd like to have that one as well.

It would really be useful to have a compendium of compatible styles for popular covers. It's a drag spending hours auditioning styles. Maybe a thread where people could post a good style they've found for a certain song? So many songs are structured similarly (especially oldies), that one style would probably cover several songs.
It would certainly be of use to the cover folks.


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Originally Posted By: 90 dB

I'd like to have that one as well.

It would really be useful to have a compendium of compatible styles for popular covers. It's a drag spending hours auditioning styles. Maybe a thread where people could post a good style they've found for a certain song? So many songs are structured similarly (especially oldies), that one style would probably cover several songs.
It would certainly be of use to the cover folks.


Regards,

Bob

This is a great idea Bob. A detailed cross reference.
Of course we're all aware that the Style Picker 'hints' at one or two songs that might match the style, but this is by no means an exhaustive cross reference.


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The first thing to do whan cnfronted with a song and looking for the "which style should I use?" constant is to count along with the target song and figure out what the Feel of the tune actually is.

In the case of Dobie Gray's version of this tune, since the pulse can be counted as "8 to the bar* while the song plays, and since the subdivision is in 2's and not 3's per beat, you would be looking for an EVen 16ths style, most likely.


That can be further narrowed down with a little common sense, for example, you know you're not looking for a Jazz style or a Swing style, no Gospel style, and very likely not one of the Bluegrass styles either, but you might find something in one of the Modern Country styles, and since the song is basically an R&B offering, one of those may do the trick as well. And Blues styles might work.

The thing here is to find the style that works as to that all imporrant FEEL first. Does. Not. Matter. if the instruments aren't yet playing what you want to hear at that point, does not matter if it is an all-MIDI style and you think you only want to deal in all Realtracks at that point either, the important thing at this phase is simply to get BB playing something along with your entered Chords that works as to that Feel and Tempo.

From there on in all you have to do is use the Prototype Style button and then the Preview on DoubleClick feature to audition only those styles that are PROTOTYPES of the style that fits.

Those will be indicated by an asterisk * in front of the stylenames in the stylepicker after you have hit the Prototype button.


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In a sense does this not exist already? thousands upon thousands of biab files in the yahoo biab group (though that song is not there)

Just picking one the song memo for Banks of the Ohio, gives the following

Song Summary *************
Title: Banks of the Ohio
File:Banks Of The Ohio.MGU
Key=C , Tempo 120, Length (m:s)=3:20
No intro. 32 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 32. Repeat x3 choruses, tag ending, after bar 32
Melody has 1098 notes, saved patch is Bright Piano (2)
No Soloist track.
Style is C_JETHRO.STY (Jethro Bluegrass)
Style MIDI Instruments are : Acoustic String Bass (33), Acoustic Guitar (26), Banjo (106),
MIDI Drums :41 Brushes Kit (41)

RealDrums will be substituted :Nashville2Beat^07-a,b:Brushes
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another 50 ways to leave your Lover has song memo and style

****** Song Summary *************
Title: Fifty Ways To Leave Your Lover - Paul Simon
File:50 Ways To Leave Your Lover - Paul Simon.MGU
Key=G , Tempo 120, Length (m:s)=5:18
No intro. 52 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 52. Repeat x3 choruses
Melody has 1122 notes, saved patch is Bright Piano (2)
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with bar changes for Tempo ,
Style is CUTXFUNK.STY (Cut - time funk style)
Style MIDI Instruments are : Slap Bass 1 (37), Electric Piano (5), Clean Electric Guit (28),
MIDI Drums :1 Standard Drum Kit (1)
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All you need to do is join the yahoo biab group and download songs to your heart's content. They have a handy spreadsheet type of reference as well that you can download with a list of all the songs available there.

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A friend of mine worked that up - used _SPRTGM.STY. It's doable but you will probably want to change out some instruments - a bit rocked up this way.

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Jim,

You are correct, I guess I was lost from "Dobie" lol!

Thanks for sobering me up.

PS: Thanks all, still auditioning. I'll keep ya posted.

Later,

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Originally Posted By: BarryKJ
A friend of mine worked that up - used _SPRTGM.STY. It's doable but you will probably want to change out some instruments - a bit rocked up this way.


Barry,

I am working with this one right now, it looks like it just may work with the proper timing and instruments.

Thank you VERY LARGE!

Later,

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When looking for cover tune and I find it difficult to build one in BAIB, I sometimes check: http://www.karaoke-version.com/custombackingtrack/

There is a miltitrack of Drift Away:

http://www.karaoke-version.com/custombackingtrack/dobie-gray/drift-away-duet.html

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Tom, that's sure a very handy link. Thanks for sharing!
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I know that you can find a compatible style Mac's way, but that is still very time consuming when you need a lot of songs. I'll dig up the few I've been able to do and put them in a separate thread tomorrow. Perhaps other will pitch in.

This is actually just a clever ploy to get my hands on all of Danny C's BIAB styles.

Muhahahahahaaaaaaaaa................... laugh

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If that MIDI file is spot on, don't overlook use of the MIDI style Wizard inside Band in a Box, that can allow you to almost automatically roll your own BB style from the MIDI file.

Those wanting to do more or less "spot on" covers should like this feature a lot. Use a great sounding MIDI synth and consider adding RealDrums and maybe a RealTrack for the finish.


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Just FYI I may not get back to working on this file for a few weeks or so, so don't think I am don't want to share what I hope I will accomplish.

Thanks again for the help/direction.

Later,

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