|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 110
Apprentice
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 110 |
I need a clarification about a VST FX plugin folder I created in RB: I spoke to Support this morning about a problem I was having getting RB to recognize a new plugin. During our online discussion about the problem, I mentioned that I had created a VST FX plugin folder in RB (I did this almost a year ago) and that's where I stored the FX plugins I use with RB. I was told that I shouldn't have that folder in RB, and that I should move it out of the program files. No reason given.
The folder doesn't seem to have caused any operational problems using RB, although sometimes the FX won't show up immediately when I'm running RB and open an FX to tweak a track (but eventually does open).
Thanks in advance for any clarification and thoughts on the matter.
Ray
Keep on Rockin'
Sonny Ray
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
Ray,
In the course of events did create a "Steinberg" folder.
In this do have VstPlugins folder. Steinberg does reside in Program Files(x86).
Also Cakewalk/VstPlugins folder exists in Program Files(default name for 64bit).
Think Steinberg invented VST nomenclature to the plugins.
Also within the steinberg folder are many other folders, some I put there,
and some were installed via installation software.
Also in the steinberg folder are 22 VSTi name.dll files, including couple of
name.ini files. Blessed to have many of these SANS Kontakt(ooohhh).
When doing additions to BIAB and/or RB seems to be the place to go.
Now some software installs do put VST elsewhere. Their right I guess.
Also a lot of these in the steinberg folder are found by Cakewalk Sonar.
If the PG folks mentioned to not put it somewhere, I'd follow their recommendation.
What is mentioned above would possibly be different with many other users.
Again, many miles to go on this journey we are on.
Last edited by seeker; 02/22/14 03:17 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 110
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 110 |
Thanks, Frank B for the comment.
I did move the VST folder out of RB and into Programs (x86). When I opened a song I had been working on, all the FX I had been using were missing from the tracks. When I tried to install the FX I had been having the problems with, I got the same message I had been getting before that the FX wasn't a VST folder - of course it is, and it's also a 32bit file.
When I moved the VST folder back to RB where it has been for nearly a year, I could once again install the new FX in question.
So I'm wondering why not have a VST folder with FXs in Real Band? I have had trouble before loading other VST 32bit FXs from other file folder locations, but been successful when the FXs were in the RB VST folder.
I should have asked support my "why not" question, but didn't, and was hoping someone on this forum would know.
Regards and best wishes,
Ray
Keep on Rockin'
Sonny Ray
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827 |
Yea it should not matter where you have them, I have some all over the place and they still work, not all plugins install themselves in a common VSTPlugins folder. So is it just a new plugin that won't open in RB, because there is a lot I found that won't open.
If the folder is on an external USB it might be a bit slow to open.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 272
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 272 |
It's better to have them located in a neutral location such as the Steinberg one mentioned, because you may have other audio programs that alsoneed to access the vsts.
If you install them in the Realband folder and later on install a newer version of RB, not sure but the new install might not retain your original folder. That is not an issue if it is stored elsewhere.
The reason your songs can't locate the vst folder after moving it is because it is looking for the old path you originally set to the RB folder.
Terry
BIAB/RB 2018 PlusPak. Dell Inspiron23 running Win10, 12GB RAM, 2.5GHz i7, Presonus AudioBox USB interface.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
If you install them in the Realband folder and later on install a newer version of RB, not sure but the new install might not retain your original folder. That is not an issue if it is stored elsewhere.
If you install a newer version "right overtop" of the older version, the Installer does not delete anything that is not part of the new version. VST's, Songs, etc. have always been right where I left them after doing that every year with not only RB, but PT and BiaB as well. --Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,879
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,879 |
I've seen it both ways. In and out. I generally let the VST install where it wishes by default and then tell the programs that need to access it where it can be found.
Anytime you move that folder, the programs that have access to it will not know where to find it so you will get the "missing plug in's" notification. If you re-point them to the new location, all should be good.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 110
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 110 |
Thanks to everyone for their comments. I installed the 2014 version without any problem to the VST Folder or its contents.
Rather then fix something that's not broken (on my computer, that is), I made a copy of the VST folder and put it in my Program folder, so now I have a copy if anything happens to the RB folder.
Thanks again - keep on rockin'
Ray
Keep on Rockin'
Sonny Ray
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,879
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,879 |
Rather then fix something that's not broken (on my computer, that is), I made a copy of the VST folder and put it in my Program folder, so now I have a copy if anything happens to the RB folder.
Ray
I hope you renamed it. Even just calling it VST_BACKUP or something like that. Sometimes having 2 folders with the exact same name can really be confusing to the computer. I recall something like happening to me with VST called Jamstix. It didn't like to have 2 folders with the same name on the computer. Aside from that, a back up is always a good idea.
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 02/24/14 05:52 AM.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 110
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 110 |
Thanks for the good advice - I just renamed the file.
Ray
Keep on Rockin'
Sonny Ray
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!
All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!
It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!
The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.
The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
Whether you're exploring new features, checking out the latest RealTracks or Style PAKs, this is your go-to guide for Band-in-a-Box® 2026.
Check out this forum post for "One Stop Shopping" of our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Videos!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 100 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until May 15, 2026. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.
Holiday Weekend Hours
As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:
April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours
Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!
— Team PG
Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!
If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,289
Posts802,775
Members40,083
| |
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean