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Hello folks. I am a guitar player who uses BIAB. I am trying to find a solution to get me away from the computer keyboard entry. I don’t play keyboards, but am pretty facile on the fretboard. I am looking at buying a Godin Multiac and Roland Synth and patch into the midi that way. However it is costly. Good gear, but expensive. The Godin rep has suggested I look at the following: http://www.godinguitars.com/godintripleplayp.htm do you have any experience with it? Does it work with BIAB? And if so, any feedback. Many thanks. RB
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Hi, check this video discussing FretLight Guitars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTXfHDYw2skI believe the price is reasonable considering all that it has. You can also hook this up with Guitar Pro 6 (software). http://www.guitar-pro.com/en/index.php?pg=product#/outilsSo FretLight guitar will work with BIAB and GP6. Hope this helps. added text: FretLight uses a USB cable.
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Check out the Fishman MIDI interface: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TriplePlayPUThis is a MIDI controller that should work with BiaB. If my old Casio Strat MIDI controller ever dies this is what I am going to get. I will attach it to my guitar but if I get rid of that guitar I will pull the Fishman out and put it on another. It looks like this is very cost effective plus it is getting very high ratings. Good luck. PS – but be forewarned that you have to be very meticulous when playing a guitar MIDI controller. Strumming open chords can lead to false readings. Also be prepared to do a little MIDI editing. Cleaner playing will yield the best results. Think of playing a guitar MIDI controller as a new instrument. It takes a little time to learn what you can and can not do. Been there – done that!
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Hello folks. I am a guitar player who uses BIAB. I am trying to find a solution to get me away from the computer keyboard entry. I don’t play keyboards, but am pretty facile on the fretboard. I am looking at buying a Godin Multiac and Roland Synth and patch into the midi that way. However it is costly. Good gear, but expensive. The Godin rep has suggested I look at the following: http://www.godinguitars.com/godintripleplayp.htm do you have any experience with it? Does it work with BIAB? And if so, any feedback. Many thanks. RB I don't have experience with that specific guitar, but have used a Roland GR-20 guitar synthesizer with Band-in-a-Box (recording MIDI, chord detection, etc.). As long as you are connecting to the computer via MIDI (eg. a USB to MIDI interface) then it should work with Band-in-a-Box.
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Was a techie gopher for good friend of mine using Shadow guitar midi pickup(now obsolete). About 4-5 years of support. Not BIAB, but did drive first a Korg I-40 first class for about 4 years with him. Then set it up, driving a Yamaha PSR-3000. MarioD PS – but be forewarned that you have to be very meticulous when playing a guitar MIDI controller. Strumming open chords can lead to false readings. Also be prepared to do a little MIDI editing. Cleaner playing will yield the best results.
Think of playing a guitar MIDI controller as a new instrument. It takes a little time to learn what you can and can not do. The guitar tuning was extremely crucial, but as Mario mentioned, you learn it.
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Mario...
Ahh, so true, about having a
smooth, but determined (clean) touch when jamming with a mid guitar.
Your talent for recording with a midi guitar was self evident...sort of "Easy Does It", like Sinatra would sing it!
Remember about your asking me about my "Pat Metheny" midi ax, the Roland 303, and the accompanying midi conversion unit from Roland, the GM-70 rack unit.
Well, you know I still have it, and used it on six albums I recorded in my own mobil studio, when MP3.COM, the number one source for recording destinations, especially midi types...was "the rage, in the "early years" of sites, before the Clouds swept into the current scene for recoding sites for us.
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Various Guitars/Basses Amps Pedals Rec.Equip.
Plus, BIAB 2015 and Sonar Platinum 2015 Upgrade from Cakewalk's Sonar X-3
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Mario...
Ahh, so true, about having a
smooth, but determined (clean) touch when jamming with a mid guitar.
Your talent for recording with a midi guitar was self evident...sort of "Easy Does It", like Sinatra would sing it!
Remember about your asking me about my "Pat Metheny" midi ax, the Roland 303, and the accompanying midi conversion unit from Roland, the GM-70 rack unit.
Well, you know I still have it, and used it on six albums I recorded in my own mobil studio, when MP3.com was owned by Bartelsman in Europe long ago, as a destination for uploading your midi material, and then, for a small cost, producing these en-masse, for not much money for self distribution, and also teir web site was great for showcasting individual tunes you had in your album. Sort of far ahead of the times in the 50's and 60's...but, lots of fun and easy production on that now defunct site.
Long live midi recording...I've got to get into it again. Nowadays we can look at PG and others, including "n-Tracks.com"l to offer some nice and easy ways to "get into it"!!
Yamaha...Motif ES-8, Motif Rack, CS6X
Korg...Karma,Triton Classic, PA-80, M-1+
AkaiSampler-S5000, Roland.. X5080 Rack/G-1000 Arranger
Various Guitars/Basses Amps Pedals Rec.Equip.
Plus, BIAB 2015 and Sonar Platinum 2015 Upgrade from Cakewalk's Sonar X-3
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Hello folks. I am a guitar player who uses BIAB. I am trying to find a solution to get me away from the computer keyboard entry. I don’t play keyboards, but am pretty facile on the fretboard. I am looking at buying a Godin Multiac and Roland Synth and patch into the midi that way. However it is costly. Good gear, but expensive. The Godin rep has suggested I look at the following: http://www.godinguitars.com/godintripleplayp.htm do you have any experience with it? Does it work with BIAB? And if so, any feedback. Many thanks. RB The Godin MIDI guitars are an excellent choice IMHO. Be advised that for MIDI use, the style and type of guitar is not all that important, really, things like a Strat shape and accompanying magnetic pickups and etc. are handy if you are onstage and need to switch back and forth between MIDI and "real" guitar quickly. In the studio, a dedicated MIDI guit that maybe does not have to ever be used as a real guitar may represent a better value, especially for someone who has already invested in their guitars that sound and look great. The Godin MultiAC can sound exactly like any of their other MIDI guitars, simply because the guitar itself does not have anything at all to do with the sounds produced in MIDI. Another path to investigate would be the Roland GK series of MIDI pickup along with any Roland GR Guitar synthesizer - the synthesizer is needed here to convert the pickup output to MIDI and plug into the computer - but you can use even the very first GR models for this, ignoring their internal soundbank if desired. GR-20s are available used for next to nothing these days. GK pickup can be mounted on just about any steel string guitar you already own, either temporarily via double-sticky backed tape, or it can be rather permanently mounted to the guitar via screws as well. Its already been mentioned that the MIDI Guitar involves a slightly different playing approach. But with a bit of time spent practicing on the thing, that should go away in about a week or so for most, if they are of the mindset that they want to be able to get the work done. --Mac
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Any midi controller should work with BIAB. However most guitars claiming to have built-in midi only include a hex pickup and a Roland (not midi) standard 13 pin connector for use with a hex to midi converter box. The midi converter box traditionally also includes midi sound module or synth audio output in addition to midi output.
Another solution is adding midi capability to an existing guitar. The Fishman Triple Play is the newest addition to this product family and is receiving good reviews.
Third option is a purpose built guitar midi controller. Casio owned this product family in the eighties and early nineties but currently offer no products which is really sad because they offered some good and affordable products. The only product I currently know of in this family is Inspired Instrument's YouRock Guitar, also called the YRG-1000. It offers both din (five pin) and USB midi out connections. Editor software is available for firmware upgrades and customization.
Both the Fishman Triple Play or YouRock guitar might suit you and are available from Guitar Center or Musician's Friends online for about $300 US.
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Starr Labs http://www.starrlabs.com/is another guitar controller in the style of RockGuitar, that is contact keys in place of strings and frets. I didn’t mention them before as they are quite expensive, in the thousands USD.
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Great point Mario.
StarrLabs has been building midi guitar controllers since the early nineties so their products should be mentioned. Their engineering and innovations raise the bar for other manufactures.
I just don't agree with their vision. I think their products are visual works of art but are not that useful to most guitar players that are also interested in using midi. I think there is too much of an adjustment required when buttons are intergrated into the fretboard instead of strings. The YouRock controller fretboard has six raised surfaces running the length of the fretboard that have a look and feel similiar to strings. There are also raised "frets".
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Howdy all.
It’s a glorious morning here in rural Yukon.
Thanks for all the suggestions and directions.
I head ’outside’ on tour next week and will be ordering my ‘solution’ – not sure what yet – before I leave so it’s here when I get home at the end of April.
If the group is interested, I’ll post what I end up buying and how it seems to be working.
Again, many thanks for all the help.
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Yes please post what you get, how you like it and a recording of you using it.
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PG should be using something like this when recording any RealTrack guitars so you would get "Real" RealCharts and the assocated midi file with the RealTracks.
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PG should be using something like this when recording any RealTrack guitars so you would get "Real" RealCharts and the assocated midi file with the RealTracks. As I understand it, they do. But not for eery guitar realtrack. Peter G. was excited about getting their collective hands on one of the Godin guitars several years ago, BTW. But we also have to consider that various artists may greatly prefer to use their own guitars when recording the realtracks as well, so it is likely a mixed bag in that respect. --Mac
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Not sure where they are really using it as none of the RealCharts have any bends etc. when played back thru a VSTi and none of the midi super tracks have guitar.
The good thing with the TriplePlay is it just holds on with double side tape so I think any Session muso could easily stick it to their guitar in a few seconds.
There is even pickups for Mandolin Violin Bass.
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I finally got around to watching the demo video for the triple play, and I thought it was awesome!
I have a different Godin Midi guitar and also a Roland GK- type setup, and I have found the cables to be problematic. This wireless model would eliminate that problem completely... you'd never have glitches from a cable that has an "iffy" connection. You also wouldn't have to worry that moving around on stage might cause the cable to pull loose.
Also the cables must be plugged into a proprietary Roland 13 pin MIDI input, which means you also have to buy a device that has the right MIDI jack (not the same as all the reasonably priced 5 pin MIDI to USB adapters you can buy everywhere)
The USB connection would get you going without having to buy additional gear. And it's a really nice guitar that would retain or grow its value, if you ever decided to sell it later. Some of the other options are interesting technology, but they are niche products that might be harder to resell.
Everything stated above is based on my own preferences and observations, not on empirical data... I think all of the suggestions in the thread have been excellent, and any of them would provide you with a solution that works in BIAB.
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The 13-pin connect is not because Roland did anything "proprietary" to the MIDI connect, its just that the GK pickup is just that, only the pickup, with a separate magnetic pickup for each string. That's not MIDI data. The 13 connections = 2 wires for each string's separate pickup plus one for the grounded shield around them. The conversion of that analog audio single string output to MIDI note data takes place in the synthesizer box, it is quite a bit of electronics in order to do that. Things have gotten much smaller since that Roland design, today the electronics to convert the analog string output to MIDI data can be done in a much smaller footprint. But today we now also have other options, that can take the same Analog 1/4" output of any good guitar pickup and convert that to MIDI data via a tiny USB connector. Check this out: http://shop.sonuus.com/product_info.php?products_id=33&osCsid=9552eac0ffe309c318bf919a4a533f58 Good Times It can only do Single Notes, though. --Mac
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
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-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
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-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
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- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
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Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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