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Looking for a style(s) with a turnaround intro, as well as turnarounds at the end of each 12 bar verse. My ears have worn out searching thru the available styles. BiaB 2014 Pro, with styles from the internet as well as older BiaB stuff.
Still hoping for info as to whether the VST components of Native Instruments Komplete Elements (Kontakt 5, Reaktor 5, Guitar Rig 5) will work in Realband or BiaB?
If I add them as a plugin, they show up in the list...but don't seem to *work*.
Any help appreciated.
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TxMagik, to have a song form like you are suggesting I roll my own. I have one long chorus containing all the measures of the song, including the turnarounds like you suggest. I might be wrong but I don’t think that there is a style that does all you are asking.
If Komplete is 64 bit it will not work. I don’t know about 32 bit as all I have is 64 bit.
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It's called the Heineken Maneuver.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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Thanks Mario... Since I don't have midi input, or play the keyboard for that matter, it makes it kind difficult to input from scratch, alas. I have tried the one long chorus method, but have had little luck *placing* the turnarounds...:( I have both 32 and 64 bit vst in Komplete elements. They *add* as a plugin and show up in the plugin list...but don't seem to work within either Real Band or BiaB.
And Native instruments tech support said they never heard of BiaB, so they were no help. And so I languish...chuckles.
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Are you looking for specific licks to be played over the turnaround? If so, you will unlikely get that in BIAB. Or are you just wanting to hear the typical chordal transition for the final four bars of the blues tune (this is generally what I think of when I think "turnaround")? If the latter, you should be albe to do that with a strong chord progession. Lots of very chord cool changes availalbe to draw out the "turnaround".
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Thanks Mario... Since I don't have midi input, or play the keyboard for that matter, it makes it kind difficult to input from scratch, alas. I have tried the one long chorus method, but have had little luck *placing* the turnarounds...:( I have both 32 and 64 bit vst in Komplete elements. They *add* as a plugin and show up in the plugin list...but don't seem to work within either Real Band or BiaB.
And Native instruments tech support said they never heard of BiaB, so they were no help. And so I languish...chuckles. Could you be a little more specific when you say you have trouble placing the turnarounds? Also what do you mean when you say Komplete Elements shows up but won’t work? Do you have an instrument assigned in elements? Is the MIDI out channel matching the elements MIDI input channel? I’m not that familiar with elements but if it is like Kontakt it will have a keyboard simulated in it. If so does the keyboard play when you click on it? With a lot of NI’s products you have to run them in stand a lone mode first, otherwise the VSTi will not work. Have you done that?
Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer.
It's called the Heineken Maneuver.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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Looking for a style(s) with a turnaround intro, as well as turnarounds at the end of each 12 bar verse. . . are a set of Chord Changes. Styles do not contain nor dictate Chord Changes. Chord Changes are what you, the User, dictate to BIAB. Are we missing something here? 
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As long as you installed the 32-bit version of Komplete Elements, it should work. However, you have to make sure that you load the 32-bit version of each of the DLL's (Kontakt 5 Player, Guitar Rig 5 Player, and Reaktor 5 Player. If you load the 64-bit DLL (they are separate DLL's), it just won't work.
You also have to make sure in each of the players to select the instrument you want to use and then match the proper channel numbers for the track you want to use it with. In BIAB, you can select "Opt, Preferences" and then select the "Channels" tab to see which channel each track uses.
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Looking for a style(s) with a turnaround intro, as well as turnarounds at the end of each 12 bar verse. . . are a set of Chord Changes. Styles do not contain nor dictate Chord Changes. Chord Changes are what you, the User, dictate to BIAB. Are we missing something here? That's what I said... still waiting for clarification.
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TxMagic:
Look in the bb folder for the folder named, "BLUEJAMC" and there you will find around 90 or so examples of Blues changes, many of them based on the various 12-bar blues known, Major or minor.
Those chords can be used with your own songs, or different Styles than what they were programmed with originally, or add RealTracks, etc.
Don't forget that once loaded, you can change keys with a single click.
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Thanks to all the replies... I got the Komplete Elements to finally work as a VST (had to set it's internal midi channels to *omni* instead of *first free*)...only to discover that there is only a classical nylon string guitar in the samples, no other guitars to be found, so even now that it works, what I wanted it for won't work for me.
As to turnarounds, the ones I play on my guitar are individual notes, usually, and an occasional double stop, not always chords. I was hoping for some *note* based turnarounds...I have yet to checkout the folder BLUEJAMC, maybe I'll get lucky there.
I had tried to copy and paste some midi phrases that sounded sorta right, but I have yet to master that aspect of editing (the timing).
Again, thanks all...appreciate the help
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Alas, further *blues*...I guess my less expensive pro version of 2014 doesn't contain BLUEJAMC...may next birthday...chuckles
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As to turnarounds, the ones I play on my guitar are individual notes, ..... not always chords. I was hoping for some *note* based turnarounds..........
With BB, you can do some pretty amazing things with the chords. I have a few tunes in progress that have walk ups or downs.... For example where you might go from the verse, and walk up to the start of the chorus. 1 up to the 4. You can easily place that sort of thing using chords that are quarter notes. In addition, you can tell BB to not play the root of the chord, but instead to play some other note in the walk up/down or just in general. Since you play the guitar, just take the basic chord pattern from BB and render the tracks...copy them out to Real Band (or simply open the project in Real Band) and simply record your guitar playing the exact notes you want.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Thanks Guitarhacker...
looks as if that will be my next project...was hoping to simplify a bit, and not have to rely on my own lousy playing...but hey...chuckles
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you can always collaborate with a guitar player from this forum..... just look around and see who plays their own guitar parts.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Thanks again, great idea...still new to this, so it's an interesting load of...well...let's call it *fun* for now...chuckles
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Hey, TxMagik - Remember that Komplete Elements is really just their sampler pack to give you an idea of what kinds of sound you can play using the Kontakt player. NI is hoping that you like them so much you will buy additional instrument packs, or the full versions of the products.
They do run sales now and then, so keep an eye on the web site, and if you are registered, you should get email notices as well.
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Thanks jford
Tech support at native instruments was happy to suggest I buy more...chuckles
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